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user there is no desire on our part to work out a border system in that time as we still think we can have 'frictionless trade'

Something probably could be worked out if there was sufficient desire but it would cost a fortune and take years.

All a bit pointless really to still end up in a worse position than we are now.

The WM threads have been described by posters as the 'anti-brexit' threads for remainers, so what's wrong with having balance with a pro-brexit thread for leavers

The WM wasn't set up to be exclusively for Remainers, it just worked out that way as no Leavers venture over there.

Your definition of 'pro-Brexit' would just be a lot of happy clappy talk of sunlit uplands, rainbows and unicorns.

You'd all completely ignore any of the realities of the situation, as you do on here.

If it actually contained real details of the positives of Brexit and how things are going to work out for the better, it would make very interesting reading.

The WM wasn't set up to be exclusively for Remainers, it just worked out that way as no Leavers venture over there.

They used to, but got fed up with it.

Thus, yet another remain echo-chamber was created.

It applies to new rules too but why wouldn't it?

Because will be in a transition period to leaving so no point in us agreeing to sign up to anything new. It would just be more rules to disentangle ourselves from and probably costing the country more money in the process - how convenient.

The WM threads have been described by posters as the 'anti-brexit' threads for remainers, so what's wrong with having balance with a pro-brexit thread for leavers?
There has never been any attempt to 'bar' any posters from WM threads - which is basically what surfer is suggesting doing with her 'lagoon'. Anyone is welcome to contribute to WM thread. If you want your very own echo chamber, why not set one up somewhere else? You could have a nice little FB group, where you make sure everyone agrees with your views before letting them join. MN is a PUBLIC discussion forum, on which everyone and anyone is entitled to air their views.
I enjoy reading the diversity of opinion on this thread, even though I don't agree with them all and am astonished by the inability of some posters to put forward any kind of coherent argument to support their beliefs.

user I'm not 'attacking you' I just can't be doing with your posting style.

This is a thread about Brexit. If you want to discuss what you're doing today, your life history, every friend / girlfriend/ colleague you've ever had, then there are more appropriate threads to do that.

I'll happily discuss Brexit related points with you but I'm not going to wade through posts littered with irrelevant comments about wedding anniversaries and rugby to try and work out what you're saying.

I do think it's particularly odd that you've only changed your mind on your vote because you think we all need to get on together.

I find that incredibly naive. That's not supposed to be an insult I just don't really understand why you think everyone getting along is possible here given the divisions Brexit has and is causing and the fact Leavers have no solutions to the problems.

Because will be in a transition period to leaving so no point in us agreeing to sign up to anything new. It would just be more rules to disentangle ourselves from and probably costing the country more money in the process - how convenient.

Well it's only as convienient as us needing to maintain access to the SM/CU while we sort our shit out.

I genuinely don't understand this kind of arrogance- why should the other 27 countries have to adhere to rules that we don't have to whilst we still get the same benefits that they do.

This is a thread about Brexit. If you want to discuss what you're doing today, your life history, every friend / girlfriend/ colleague you've ever had, then there are more appropriate threads to do that.

It's a PUB THREAD.

Historically on MN there have been pub threads in the various different sub topics - they're where people who share a similar interest have a lighthearted chit chat style thread - talking about anything & everything, not just confined to the topic of the sub topic.

If you want a thread which is firmly focussed on Brexit & Brexit alone, with no diversions from the topic or meaningless chit chat - then start one!

You've had this explained to you before though, more than once.

Oh grow up faith. Start your own little echo chamber for Leavers only like surfer suggested if you really want a place to discuss anything but Brexit.

You can't really ban Brexit discussions on thread with Brexit in the title, in the EU referendum section.

Lost half of that!

This has never really been a 'pub thread' as you've described it; more of a variation on the WM threads where a different group of people converge.

No one else on here litters every post with day to day comings and goings and life history so I find it odd that user does.

user, thinking about your motivation for posting on here being mrshoolies plight with her mental health I think it's clear your intentions are well placed, it's just this isn't a subject where peace and harmony is going to be easily forthcoming.

twofingerstoEverything

This thread would be fine if it wasn’t for the posters who only come on here to throw insults around. It was manageable when we only had smallpox to worry about, but banning him hasn’t stopped people like him coming on this thread. < unfortunately >
We don’t care if you think we’re stupid, thick, brainwashed - calling us names is not going to stop Brexit.
So yes, having a place just for us would be nice actually. Why would that bother you?

You can't really ban Brexit discussions on thread with Brexit in the title, in the EU referendum section.

Nobody's trying to ban Brexit discussions!

Only pointing out that on a PUB THREAD other discussions are perfectly fine also.

The Brexit Arms criteria is abit like the governments stance on Brexit - don't know what they want!

The WM threads have been described by posters as the 'anti-brexit' threads for remainers, so what's wrong with having balance with a pro-brexit thread for leavers?

The main problem Brexiteers have with the WM threads, is that the nasty remoaners kept on either asking for facts and proof, dismissing mere recycling of press releases. Or they repeatedly questioned the progress (or lack thereof) Brexit by measuring it against the Brexiteers own words. Both pretty unsporting moves in serious debate.

There have actually been some Leavers on the WM threads who have made good points, and had valid facts and data to back them up. The problem then being the facts and data simply don't support their reasons for Brexit.

One trap for Leavers is to ask by what metric they consider the UK has progressed Brexit ? A link to the pre-referendum plan would suffice.

Ooh I see there must have been a ‘call to arms’ (no pun intended)

I don’t think it’s ‘a call to arms’ time

I read the WM threads but rarely post there; clearly others read this but don’t often post here.

Still doesn’t address the issue of leavers refusing to enter into meaningful discussion on here.

😂 always happens time4 - ghost will pop up next no doubt....

Sorry! Just noticed she's already pitched up 😳

👋 to Ghost.

BEAR
Sorry I must have misread the op,
Brexit Arms,
Providing banal conversation ETC

When ever we in rl, have pub talks we put things into context, discuss side matters and generally try and be nice to each other. If not some one usual takes offence and leaves/starts a fight.

I am obviously a turn coat to you, but my views still count.
Yes, poor Mshoolie, have you learnt nothing.
Your not my mother, you won't ban me from doing anything.
I meet faith, on the JRM & uni of uwe, thread and though started off badly, I grew to like her and totally respect her views. As I do yours and surfers etc.
So please leave me to talk, as I do to you.
Ps I haven't called anyone a
Bigoted,
Racist,
Xenephobe.

calling us names is not going to stop Brexit.

neither will facts ....

Kofa
Depends on which side of the divide you lived with,
I say Eire, because what the Irish chose, If it is it helps I can say Ireland. But I not going there, because as a turncoat, we have nothing to add to import conservations.
I think that's the correct Brexit arms response happy now Bear
I wish

Yes, poor Mshoolie, have you learnt nothing.

What I am supposed to have learned from that. She has mental health issues and Brexit and the fact Brexiteer are so blasé about everything isn’t helping her condition.

If your looking to heal wounds and make everyone get on then you need to provide details on how the problems can be overcome and how our fears are actually unfounded.

Your not my mother, you won't ban me from doing anything.

I’m not telling you what do do; only that if you want to discuss Brexit with me then I need clearer posts showing what your points are.

Tbh, I think it’s better if we just don’t bother conversing.

Ok bear.
I will stick to one syllables and post stupid pictures and join your prefect view of all leavers.
one last time
Using words of hate you sent to me, earlier on this thread, is way used throughout history to make boogiemen and scapegoats,
You I hope have never had MH issues, I sadly know to many, my DAD for instance. The depressed can not put things in to perspective, like you and I.
So if people like you and others call people me the B/R or X word, they sadly believe you. If you say ALL LEAVERS are those and worse I have seen on mumsnet's Eu threads, vunerable think you are right, and then think 50% of Britain wants them gone.
I had a friend, brilliant girl, who's mother said similar things you have said to me, she was 30, her mother did think anything of it, until I rang her to say I had to identify her daughter's body.
Please if you never speak to me again, don't think throwing insults doesn't hurt people it DOES
I will never stop trying to get people to think and agree on things, if not people I know and care for have died, I can't cope with that some days, I won't let people think the internet is different.
Goodbye bear, I think I will join poor MsHoolie and have a couple of days off with my kids, you have said horrible things to me, I won't repeat them.
But 24 years ago, after losing my brother and dad in 18 months, it would have killed me. My bitter mother used all those tactics, I still here, because people did what I trying to do here talk
Please leave me alone