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Gin & coat-hangers were used in the past. Is it morally wrong to invest in a coat-hanger company?

I see you don’t have any worries about investing in gin!

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Yeah, Jacob Rees-Mogg, man of the people. I seriously need to have a break from these threads and the whole Brexit thing because it’s actually beginning to make my depression, which has led to me being sectioned in the past, come back.
It’s not funny anymore.
I just think about my children’s future and I want to cry.
The one consolation about Donald Trump getting elected was that it relegated us to the second stupidest electorate in the world. But at least they can get rid of him in 3 years. This will last for a generation at least.
I don’t blame individual Leave voters and I actually have some understanding of why people voted the way they did.
This referendum should never have happened. It was always far too complex to put to a Yes/No vote. And having no plan whatsoever in the event of a Leave vote is bordering on criminal negligence.
But David Cameron gets to waltz off into the sunset to write his memoirs and coin it in on the after dinner circuit. It makes me feel sick.
To those of you that say that we’re all being melodramatic and catastrophising - I genuinely hope that you’re right, I really do.
I am a natural optimist- my approach to life could be summed up by ‘It will all be ok’.
But I just don’t feel that right now. I feel like we’re staring into an abyss and it terrifies me.
I just want someone to have the courage to say,’ This is madness. Stop before it’s too late’.

MissHoolie

I've suffered with depression a few times (bi-polar), and I've found myself getting hugely scared & frightened about things that I normally would approach/view more pragmatically.

I mean this in the nicest way, truly - if you're feeling so terrible & fearful about Brexit then it is probably best to take a complete break from it online (I know it's impossible to escape from with everyday media & news, but online media can often be very ott & sensationalist/conspiracy theory-like & forensically dissecting minutiae whilst it's still a big unknown is where madness lies).

Fear is a healthy emotion, critical to survival. One remedy is to tackle the root cause. It helps to see that MN is predominantly pro-Remain now. Hopefully people are wising up and the tide is turning. I hope Faith is as relaxed about that as she recommends us to be about Brexit :)

MsHoolie, I make a point of not sharing my concerns about Brexit with my dd (10). We will be ok. I'm a Remainer and I despise this decision. I think it is really stupid. But we will be ok. I'm in my fifties and have seen all sorts of shit in this country. I don't believe in unicorns, free trampolines and all the loveliness the Brexiteers seem to think is coming. However, I do believe in our ability to get through shit as a country.
Cut yourself some slack and stay away from Brexit coverage. You are more important.

MN is predominantly pro-Remain now

MN has always been predominantly pro-Remain.

Fear is absolutely not a healthy emotion when you are suffering from/prone to depression London.

And I wasn't 'recommending' that MissHoolie 'just relax about it all'.

Ffs get a fucking grip - there's no need to try & twist every single thing into a 'right & wrong' or 'them & us' situation.

MN has always been predominantly pro-Remain.

YY to this time4

Seriously, fellow Remainers, if it all seems too shit, bring some normality in your life - grow spuds and tomatoes and maybe some spinach. I know it sounds stupid and escapist but at least it is productive. You don't need a lot of space or money to do it. Something to look forward to. We all need something to look forward to.

Ffs get a fucking grip

Now now. No Brexiter has a right to giving that advice. First you are complicit in commiting this country to a great uncertainty and a very likely decline, then you've got the cheek to tell distressed people not to be fearful or to get a grip? Incredible... or perhaps typical. Shame on you.

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Whatevs

then you've got the cheek to tell distressed people not to be fearful

Except I didn't.

But don't let the truth get in the way of your imagination will you.

Faith Much as we may disagree about Brexit, I do appreciate your sentiments. I don’t want to derail the whole thread and make it about my mental health but I was discharged from hospital on 2nd November after a 5 week admission after trying to throw myself under a train and then tried to hang myself on the 3rd day of my admission and was put on a section 2.
Despite our differences politically, I do genuinely appreciate your empathy.
I do genuinely understand some people’s reasons for voting Leave. I think what gets to me is when people treat it like it’s all a big joke and say things like ‘chin chin’ when some of us are genuinely worried sick about what this means for our children’ future - holds out olive branch.
But I think you’re right - I probably do need a break from these threads.

It's easy to see why this is getting people down; it's all just so depressing.

Instead of coming up with a decent negotiating stance DD decides to revert to to tried and tested 'the big nasty EU are being mean to us' here

When is he going to man up and get on with it instead of this constant bleating.

"if you're feeling so terrible & fearful about Brexit then it is probably best to take a complete break from it online"

The implication of the proposition is that the person who takes the recommended break will become less fearful, no?

Seems you've confused imagination with logic (again).

MissHoolie - I'm so, so sorry xx

Have you got rl support?
Whenever I start to recognise even the smallest downward turn now I go straight to the dr & speak to my mum or best mate - if you haven't already then please, please speak to someone soonest, don't let yourself get caught in a spiral xx

Fuck off Londonmum you unfeeling fucking bitch.

This is not a joke or a point scoring exercise it's someone's fucking life.

MsHoolie, what Faith said. Please speak to a health professional. I'm so sorry you've had it so rough.

MsHoolie so sorry for what you’ve been going through. Do hope you have RL friends and family to support you. Things will get better, however impossible that may feel now.

faith I think that was a bit over the top to londonmum

You did imply taking a break from Brexit online would miraculously make this go away- it won't.

You did imply taking a break from Brexit online would miraculously make this go away- it won't.

No. I didn't.

Read my post again if you need to.

Nothing makes the fear go away when you are in the throes of depression - it would be crass & fucking stupid to suggest it would.

I did read it many times faith

How does I mean this in the nicest way, truly - if you're feeling so terrible & fearful about Brexit then it is probably best to take a complete break from it online mean anything other than by not reading about it online things might seem better?

Read the whole post Bear, and apply context.

I said that online things are forensically dissected & overly analysed.

If you are in a mental state in which you are fearful & not in robust mind this is a sure fire way to exacerbate your thoughts & make you overthink everything even more.

To step back from the online stuff helps to mitigate the overwhelming nature of it all.

I did not once suggest it would 'miraculously make it go away'.

And would it fucking kill you or Londonmum to give an ounce of compassion to another poster who is struggling? Rather than pick apart someone else in a pathetic attempt to feel superior?

Ffs