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Note to self: add white rice to my stash of just in case supplies.

I'm sure all the top rice producers are just queuing up to do a free trade deal with us, desperate to buy our, er, jam or something...

Jam is lovely on rice pudding - an artisan export with recipe!

Which rice producing countries don't have a trading agreement with the EU?

Well, Italy is the EUs biggest rice producer ...

Driven cba to actually read the latest projected drivel but according to BBC worst case is 8% reduction in growth over a 15 year period. ie less than 0.5% per year and well within the current margins of error for gdp projections, so completely impossible to substantiate whether or not it has / will or will ever materialise.

(OBR growth projection, made in November, for 2017 was 1.5%. Flash actual estimate last week was 1.8%)

The EU is already disrupting my supply of Indian basmati rice due to new regulations on pesticides.

www.easterneye.eu/eu-set-ban-indian-basmati/

Ah, so you're happy to have pesticide laden rice then.

That's nice...

The EU has been happily approving of me eating it for the past however many years Cardinal and Indian farmers are moving production methods, just not quite quickly enough to meet EU inflexible deadlines.

Otoh I am not convinced about the approval for the continued use of Glyphosate within the EU.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/27/controversial-glyphosate-weedkiller-wins-new-five-year-lease-in-europe

No pesticides used in Pakistan in their rice and the rice produced in India is way within current standards.

Driven - as Howabout has stated it is quite easy to show that these figures are meaningless. The margin is so small in such a long time frame it's just a non story.

8% over 15 years!!!

Driven , taking the methodology that UK GDP is a multiple of household incomes as your figures suggest then why is the figure not 8% of £27k? That would be around £2k, not £6k in today's money.

Taking the more likely scenario of 2% with a net benefit on the other side from International trade of 0.5% (per Buzzfeed) would give 1.5% of £27k or £400.

The figures look suspiciously similar to the Scottish Government's pseudo-analysis from a couple of weeks back. A per head attribution in this way looks completely spurious as the main driver of the numbers was a fall in the net migration figures and thus a smaller number of heads to apportion total GDP to. (Amusing in a Scottish context because migration to and from rUK is far more significant than rEU and this effect never gets considered in Indyref2 debates).

The EU is already disrupting my supply of Indian basmati rice due to new regulations on pesticides.

What an effing tragedy. I vote for Brexit zealots to be exempt from food safety regulations.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-30/brexit-exposes-u-k-to-worldwide-raid-on-airbus-wing-production

Brexit: because who needs aerospace industry.

@Doubletrouble99

So we don't ignore you ...

8% of GDP is not a small amount of output. What are we getting in exchange?

Just ducking in to say hi.
Not been round these parts for a while but marvelous to see the pub open and full lots of great chatter about rice.
FYI I have been looking into making my own, nothing to do with brexit. Just health and province reasons.
Re food safety, we have enough scandals with so caller regulations in the UK, and in the the eu. I think we should all be looking at what we can make ourselves.

What are we getting in exchange?

Chlorinated chicken with pesticide laden basmati rice.

It's 8% over 15 years Olivia which equals 0.53333% per year. The average income in the UK in 2017 was £26,300. 0.53333% of £26,300 is £140.2666 a year. So that is the affect at the worst that this report says 'could' happen.
They are so often wrong anyway. Their predictions even for growth this last year are out about 0.5% anyway and that was not made 15 years ago!
Although 40% of our exports are done with the EU that is only 8% of our total production. We are not going to stop exporting to the EU and we will be able to make our own deals with other countries so this dome and disaster is a bit premature me thinks.

So we are getting what in exchange exactly that we don't already have?

Londonmum - Basmati rice is only grown in India and Pakistan which is where we get it from at the moment.
What do you want me to go on about Olivia? That we will regain our sovereignty etc.? Or do you want me to go on about all the trade deals we will do in the future which will be specific to us?

That we will regain our sovereignty etc.?

Except you won't because it was never lost.

Please, please not the sovereignty nonsense again.....

Texas grows its own varieties of basmati rice - it was subject to a long legal battle with India over using the basmati name, as India hadn’t trademarked or protected the basmati rice strains.