Does anyone actually care about blue passports?

[DeepanKrispanEven]

Especially given that we were always perfectly free to opt for blue if people if people were that desperate?

The old navy blue British passport was symbolic of the fact that Britain was back then rich and powerful and important.

Was it really ? Is there a cite for that in the original design spec ? Was it actually recorded as the reasoning behind the choice of colour ? In fact, was there actually a discussion on the colour before they were printed ? Or was it just that the colour blue in question happened to be the cheapest ink for the job ?

Or, is that (as I suspect) one persons opinion, magnified into "fact".

I call bullshit. As if there hasn't been enough of that already.

It is symbolic that the best thing about Brexit in 18 months (apparently) is instead allowing the UK to devise a 21st century way of providing nationality details across borders (like some sort of database) we are actually supposed to be thrilled about a minor cosmetic change in a paper document that is 2 centuries old.

What next ? Postal Orders ? Telegrams ? Dog licences ?

Did we used to have dog licences? I think thats a good idea actually. Apart from that it's all trying to hark back to the past isnt it? When they should be embracing the modern world. You cant put the genie back in the bottle, and why would you wmat to anyway?

Did we used to have dog licences? I think thats a good idea actually.

So do I. They used to be (thinks) something like 7s6d - 37½p, and you had to get them from the post office. Then some time in the 70s, someone realised they were getting about £1,000,000 from them, but spending £10,000,000 administering the system

Rather than up the cost to (say) £5/year, it was simple to abolish it.

Now for myself, I think that owning a dog - like driving a car - is not a god-given right, but a privilege. A properly enforced licensing system might just reinforce that, and encourage responsible dog ownership. The money raised from those that do pay it could be used for dog welfare in general (or at the very least to clean up the dog shit left behind).

Those that don't pay would have the dogs confiscated.

If so many people are happy to have a human ID card system, then a canine one should be a shoe-in.

as long as its blue of course 😀

Placemarking

Funny that many of these apartheid pass card rules apply now to EU nationals living in this country.
New pass cards will have same rules for 65 million, one presumes.
Fair's fair, he paid for Leave gets to design the new pass cards.

"Nobody cares. It’s embarrassing that the Govt has made a big thing out of it. "

They're making a big thing of it because they want to distract people from what's really going on:

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2017/12/20/brexit-trade-deal-liam-fox-us-uk/

https://www.ft.com/content/f0c20820-7835-34d4-b736-a95d7ca972a2

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/26/russian-ships-escorted-through-north-sea-by-british-naval-vessels

From reading this thread it seems to me that there are a load of remainers on it trying their hardest to whip up some sort of reaction from leavers.

Well I for one really don't care what colour the passport is. Have no interest in any suggestion that we are harping back to colonial times or any other suggestion that it is somehow related to us thinking we are superior.

Well it's not. It's just a colour.

whip up some sort of reaction from leavers.
Why would we care what you think?
It's the courts which will decide on the legality of what happens next with 'brexit'.

From reading this thread it seems to me that there are a load of remainers on it trying their hardest to whip up some sort of reaction from leavers.

Yes, yes. All of this is entirely a manufactured reaction by Remainers and there are hardly any Leavers (even the ones who have posted on here, they're probably just Remainers in disguise) who care about passport colour at all and who are all excited about this triumphant news.

The world is laughing at britain from Switzerland to India.

UK passport colour change invites ridicule The Theresa May government announced on Friday that the colour of the British passport will change from burgundy to blue post-Brexit

www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/uk-passport-colour-change-invites-ridicule/story-TIE1VnRTjs5eoJBpvZUgkI.html

if its just a colour why are they changing it?

From reading this thread it seems to me that there are a load of remainers on it trying their hardest to whip up some sort of reaction from leavers.

If it’s just a few pesky remainers, how do you explain the PM getting involved and making blapping on about them the last thing she did before she pissed off for Christmas?

Non-EU colleague paid £5000 in visas to take up his UK job (to get himself, non-EU wife & their child permission to live in UK). Job paid about £35k gross, so big chunk. He was the only qualified applicant, but now our project extension funding is cut, very real risk they'll all move country again in 16 months.

I do. Only because it I assume it means I have go though the faff of applying for a new one again.

You don't, mummy. Blue passports will be phased in as old ones expire. I'm quite tempted to renew my current one early so I can retain a maroon passport as long as possible.

From reading this thread it seems to me that there are a load of remainers on it trying their hardest to whip up some sort of reaction from leavers.

Bizarre logic there. It's not remainers who've been whittering on about how wonderful it is to be able to go back to the wonders of a blue passport.

Medschoolrat
The lack of knowledge about visas by UK citizens is one of the things that absolutely amazes me.
That Yanks know nothing about the world beyond their borders is bad enough
but Brits really should wake up and smell the coffee.

A Brexiter friend plans to move to France next year and when I asked him what he'd do if the French refused him residency replied
"But I'm British, of course they will let me stay"
facepalm

A seasonal ditty...

But I'm British, of course they will let me stay

eulawanalysis.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/beyond-blue-passports-ukeu-immigration.html?m=1

Of course there will still be some UK citizens moving to EU countries on a long-term basis after Brexit. The point is that they (like EU citizens moving in the other direction) will no longer have the right to do so on the very liberal terms set out in free movement law, but instead will be moving on the basis of more restrictive rules set out in national law. On the EU side, those national laws have been partly harmonised by EU law. (Retirement of UK citizens in the EU will be entirely subject to the national laws of Member States)

Finally, what about asylum? EU citizens are all but banned from applying for asylum in other Member States (the exception is discussed here), but UK citizens will no longer be EU citizens after Brexit. Like the UN Refugee Convention, EU refugee law (which is currently being revised: see discussion here) defines a refugee as person who is outside their country of origin due to a genuine fear of persecution by reason of race, religion, nationality, political opinion or particular social group. Persecution is defined as entailing some form of violence or other severe restriction on human rights. As things stand, despite obnoxious headlines from the UK’s most toxic newspapers, those calling for murder of Remain supporters are a tiny extreme fringe and there is no sign that the UK government is unable or unwilling to respond to any further violence which they might commit. Nor is there any move to lock up or ban the free speech of Remain supporters. Let’s hope this always remains the case

Finally, what about asylum? EU citizens are all but banned from applying for asylum in other Member States (the exception is discussed here), but UK citizens will no longer be EU citizens after Brexit.

Finally, something being a UK-only national has that trumps being a UK/EU national.

Not quite sure it's what Brexiteers intended ?

Wonder why they're blue? Refugee passport colour.

I haven't seen many if any leavers wittering on about how wonderful having the Blue passport is going to be. Certainly not on these threads.
But I have seen on here plenty remainers going on about leavers being so pleased about it!!!

Corcory, the point is that remainers don't have to try hard on this or any other thread to get leavers worked up about passport colours: all too many have demonstrated all too often that they are. You only have to look at any recent article about blue passports in the Mail or Express to find them wittering en masse.