Has anybody changed their mind about how they voted?

[fakenamefornow]

It seems not many people have?

Infact there're all at it and we're not even the worst!

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/europe-immigration-most-anti-immigrant-countries-italy-france-germany-uk-a7460301.html

Manclife - you are not entitled to free treatment. You are entitled to whatever residents of that country pay - that iften means pating upfront. Not sure why you think you should get preferential treatment!

@allegretto

I don't, just lawful treatment.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/10089368/Spain-faces-EU-legal-action-over-illegal-hospital-bills-for-tourists.html

As that's obviously illegal, I am glad that Brussels is clamping down on it! Luckily it doesn't seem to be a widespread problem.

Yeah, because this doesn't happen in every other EU country does it

What, a government policy of hostile environment?

No I think you'll find it's not government policy in any of the other EU27.

love it when Farage and Brexshiteers are taken down by the truth twitter.com/femi_sorry/status/907114359557586944

Link here.

twitter.com/femi_sorry/status/907114359557586944

cobblers thanks for posting

@woman9917 Try reading links before you quote and reply

@Cobblersandhogwash it's no good having conditions of entry omit you can't check those detail prior to entry due to free movement legislation. EU law is clear that people can't be removed simply because they've no resources or insurance. So what's written down is unenforceable by other caselaw because once they set foot in the UK it's nigh on impossible to remove.

We can't even deport EU nationals back to EU counties when they're wanted for serious crimes without years of legal wrangling. And that's with EU laws to enable it to happen.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32144720

Corcory - I have not looked at it in enough detail to know exactly why they need these powers. But as the bill proceeds through Parliament I'm sure all the aspects of the bill will be aired and I can then take a view.

So, on this terribly important step towards the Utopia you The People have Willed into being, with the all-important emphasis on escaping the dread hand of the undemocratic oppression of the EU and bringing forth our British Golden Age of democracy and control and the sovereignty of our Mother of All Parliaments, you are saying you may, um, be just a teensy bit ignorant of the full ramifications?

Elements - I am far from 'ignorant' of the full ramifications as you put it. I am not prepared to comment on the 'full ramifications' of a bill that has just gone through 1st reading. I will comment on how I think we should amend the bill in order to make sure on one feels there is a 'power grab'. One thing is that I am keen on the idea of a triage system for the thousands of laws affected by this act but I have yet, as has anyone else a clear idea how this would work.

At least you are not in Parliament Corcory - Kate Hoey doesn't either, and as an MP it's her duty to act for the good of the country. Which I would argue voting for something that you admit to being clueless about is a dereliction of duty.

There is a power grab going on, and few people seem to have woken up to this.

Manclife Rancadore appealed under the ECHR, which is nothing to do with the EU.

Mancliffe
Which member of the EU27 has a state policy of 'hostile environment'?

Responding to the original question, I voted Leave and firmly have not changed my mind.

I have been accused of not knowing what I voted for - I did
I have been accused of being xenophobic and racist - I am not
I have been accused of being stupid and uninformed - I am not

Most, most, most shocking of all though are that some people - including Blair, Corbyn and Cable - are proposing that the referendum results in our democracy are ignored and they re-do it.

This fundamental undermining of our democratic process, the results of this referendum, and the value of my vote as a citizen and every other citizen who voted (either way) is absolutely disgusting and is one of the most disturbing things this country is facing and that I have ever heard, along the very same continuum of the increasing abuse of politicians generally (of all sides) of our democracy and you and me.

@RandomlyGenerated all part and parcel of being in the EU

I have been accused of not knowing what I voted for - I did

What did you vote for then?

Given there's absolutely no consensus on what Brexit is going to look like, that's a bold statement.

@woman9917 non. But that includes the UK.

Manclife no it isn't - the ECHR is completely separate from the EU.

You do understand the difference between the Council of Europe and the European Council?

But that includes the UK
? It is Home Office policy.

I have been accused of not knowing what I voted for - I did
I have been accused of being xenophobic and racist - I am not
I have been accused of being stupid and uninformed - I am not
This fundamental undermining of our democratic process, the results of this referendum, and the value of my vote as a citizen and every other citizen who voted (either way) is absolutely disgusting and is one of the most disturbing things this country is facing and that I have ever heard, along the very same continuum of the increasing abuse of politicians generally (of all sides) of our democracy and you and me.

Great!

How do you feel about the Enabling Act and what it implies for the future of our sovereign Parliament? I ask because I confess my ignorance on the full ramifications and unlike Corcory (whose opinions I have always been interested to read) I am not comfortable to sit back and blindly trust that it's all going to be great.

How about leaving EURATOM? I assume you knew that membership of EURATOM pre-dated our joining the EEC? And you know what it could mean for our access and regulation of cancer treatments, nuclear power etc? Because I don't fully understand.

Do you too believe that the EU and the EHCR are one and the same?

You knew too, and therefore support (?) that May's government are actively pursuing a hostile climate to foreigners and have been sending out hundreds of deportation letters "in error"? Presumably whilst also knowing that (as we have been assured by other Leavers for over a year) that absolutely nothing would change to the status of EU citizens who had built their lives here (and UK citizens vice versa) and anyone who worried otherwise were just Remoaners fear-mongering?

@davidschneider
A reminder of what’s important:

NOT IMPORTANT
A Bake Off judge once dressed as a Nazi from Allo Allo.

IMPORTANT
Actual Nazis are back

Bearbehind
I have been accused of not knowing what I voted for - I did
What did you vote for then?

I voted to end the UK's membership of the European Union.

What did you vote for?

Yes, I'm aware that Brexit does not mean leaving the the ECHR however any future EJ rulings would unlikely to be binding. So like I said. All part and parcel.