Has anybody changed their mind about how they voted?

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It seems not many people have?

Bearbehind

Perhaps if you stopped attempting to pre-empt the responses you are about to get with your pre-loaded perception of how other people think and your categorisations of said views, you'd not put yourself in the position of being so shocked and outraged, and also be able to politely engage with me and others.

I shall not engage in pre-loaded questions such as Do you seriously think that, when you categorically stated that you knew exactly what you were voting for, that it really was that simple? - when I have not said anywhere that it was simple, let alone "that simple", that I thought it is, let alone "seriously think it" is, since I have no idea what "it" is that you are referring to or anything else you are conjuring up in your mind, and hence arguing against. Nobody can engage in fabricated preconceptions, it is futile.

I replied to you. I voted to leave the EU. Since you have still failed to tell me what you voted for, I assume from your posts that you voted to remain. Had you had the courtesy to reply to me, your decision to vote to remain in the EU is as valid and all-encompassing a vote as mine was to leave. The vote was remain/leave, a yes/no vote. Quite why you are struggling to understand how a referendum works is baffling.

The referendum vote was a clear decision: remain or leave. You asked me what I voted for. To insult me and even after I ask you to be polite you now call me and others "naive" and "deluded" shows just how unable you are to engage in polite, decent discourse. I repeat - it does you no favours, or your cause, and it doesn't help further the debate.

I voted remain. I felt very strongly about it at the time and I knew it would be a disaster. So far I haven't been proved wrong. Most of it is predictable.

I feel I'm in limbo, waiting for the inevitable, surrounded by ostriches.

flowerpot, Yes I voted to Remain, on account of the fact there wasn't, and still isn't, any inkling of a plan on how Leaving will work.

If you actually don't think it's as simple as just a choice to leave the EU or not, could you share your vision of leaving and what you think we'll gain from it?

Bearbehind

flowerpot, Yes I voted to Remain, on account of the fact there wasn't, and still isn't, any inkling of a plan on how Leaving will work.

Could you tell me the details of what the plan was if we remained?

If you actually don't think it's as simple as just a choice to leave the EU or not..

"If you actually don't think...."?? Did I say that? There you go again. Try again.

flowerpot, no plan was required to Remain. We'd have carried on as we were, enjoying the benefits of free trade with the world largest trading block and our closest neighbours, helping shape laws, taking advantage of our many exemptions and having a say in how the EU was run.

As for your second comment; you either think the vote was a simple binary one or you acknowledge it's more complicated than that- there's no other option.

If it's the latter, what benefits do you perceive there to be that make dealing with those complications worthwhile?

Nazi Leave campaigner cheered by Nazis.

@mrjamesob
Farage getting a standing ovation from this lot last week garnered less attention than Paul Hollywood dressing as a sitcom Nazi last decade.

One of the things that strikes me most is the very high ongoing, sustained levels of anxiety and anger among those who voted to remain.

Me too ommmward.

The point you are both spectacularly missing ommmward and faith is that this is not about anxiety levels or anger, it's an inability to just close our eyes and hope for the best, which appears to be the Leavers way of dealing with the next few months/ years.

Some might say that those who follow fascist corrupt populist leaders like Nigel Farage who encourage violence against their opponents are traitors.

Especially when two little children have already been orphaned by english ultra right fascists.

I think I'd call them traitors.

One doesn't need a mens rea to be found guilty of that one.

I replied to you. I voted to leave the EU

So EEA membership would be fine? You would then be getting exactly what you voted for and we would then absolutely and unambiguously NOT be in the EU.

Anyway back to my original question, it really puzzles me why people are so welded to their vote. I have heard a couple of Remain voters saying they would vote Leave now because of the way Leave voters have been called stupid and racist. I haven't heard a single Leave voter saying they would now vote Remain because of the rise in racist assaults and murders though. Also the collapse of the pound hasn't seemed to change anybody's vote, neither has the continued growth in employment.

I actually wish I could support Leave, life seems great for you lot, for many, many reasons, I just can't though.

Or the "leavers" way of dealing with the next few months / years is to watch, with interest, as it develops. It certainly doesn't consume most peoples every waking moment.
I voted leave, as did another 2 of my 4 sisters. We had some good natured discussions before the vote, and for about a day after, but not since as normal life has resumed.

BMW you perfectly illustrate one of the problems here; you think the referendum was over on 23rd June last year.

It wasn't- that was just the beginning.

It certainly doesn't consume most peoples every waking moment.

I can't imagine how I could ignore the numerous suicides and deaths in deportation centres.

Or the personal anguish of EU nationals who have been threatened with deportation.

Or the imposition of executive rule through the Enabling Act.

Or the fascist leader of Leave inciting other fascists.

We all have different moral compasses, I suppose.

I don't know anyone who voted Leave who've changed their mind. I think strong Remainers hope they have, but i don't see the evidence of it happening.

Oh, do give over, ommmward. We are being comprehensively stripped of our rights as EU citizens, most notably FOM, our friends from the EU who live here are facing terrible uncertainty, and some of us are already under threat of redundancy.

And you wonder what is 'feeding' our anxiety. That's disingenuous of you, to say the least.

You also seem to be mistakenly assuming that remain/leave is split on party political lines.

I don't know anyone who voted Leave who've changed their mind. I think strong Remainers hope they have, but i don't see the evidence of it happening.
I know two leave voters. One believed the NHS/money lie and hasn't given the referendum a second thought since last June, but did moan about how many Euros she got to the £ when she went to Portugal last month. The other 'thought it was time for a change' and voted on that basis. She bitterly regrets her vote. I am aware that this does not equal 'evidence' of anything.

and there was this regretful leaver who has been recorded for posterity.

I don't know anyone who voted Leave who've changed their mind
Presumably you don't know anyone in Sunderland which is now 60% remain.
Or Wales which is majority remain now?

You only know two Leavers twofingers, both unhappy with their vote? I know a large number and none of those seem to have changed their minds. i know a lot of remain voters too, I don't think they've changed their minds particularly either. I identify very strongly with BMW in this - outside mn, no one is ranting and raging about Brexit. A few passing discussions is about it.

Funnily enough woman, I don't know anyone in Sunderland. However when I say I don't know anyone who voted Leave who've changed their mind, I mean there is no one I know who voted Leave who have changed their mind. Is that clearer?

No need to shout, poppet.

Eh? I was whispering! Too scared to attract the wrath of Bear.

You only know two Leavers twofingers, both unhappy with their vote?
Maybe read my post again. One hasn't given it a second thought and one regrets it.
I know several people still "ranting and raging" about Brexit (as you so nicely put it), but that is no doubt because of the industry I work in and the huge repercussions we've already seen. Two immediate colleagues made redundant already and more forecast.