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The Brexit Arms. All welcome.

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surferjet · 30/07/2017 21:06

So.....how are we all?
Wine

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bathildabagshot1 · 16/08/2017 15:48

You think that without the EU the refugees wouldn't be coming, again, conflation.

Lessworried, are you Enoch Powell?

lessworriedaboutthecat · 16/08/2017 15:52

I think they would still be coming with or without the EU however the EU is doing nothing to stop it. As an Island we and the Irish (who are also an Island) have a chance to survive what's coming.

Enoch Powell probably was right.

mummmy2017 · 16/08/2017 15:53

bathildabagshot1
This crap is what the Newspapers the Tv and the internet peddle.
You hold a VETO out like some kind of Cross against a Vampire.
You do know we have almost never use a VETO in EU.
Instead there are back room deals so we agree things.
The EU are bullies, and bullies like their own way.
Had they given Cameron anything at all you would not sadly be lamenting the lose of our part in the EU.
If your saying everthing I think is wrong then you also have to blame the way it's presented to us, because right now I am still happy to know that in time we will be able to move forwards.

mummmy2017 · 16/08/2017 15:55

Quota.
The WTO has agreed quota's.
Eu has quota for every country it represents.
We are leaving so part of that quota is UK property.
Woo that was hard.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 16/08/2017 15:58

You hold a VETO out like some kind of Cross against a Vampire.

Grin True dat.

Has always been the way amongst the hardcore remoaning contingent though.

Won't SOMEBODY think of the VETO????!!!!

lessworriedaboutthecat · 16/08/2017 16:00

mummy2017 David Cameron asked for very so little and didn't even get that.

mummmy2017 · 16/08/2017 16:01

Hence why I said to seize your chance when it arrives.

You had Labour who might have won.
So there will be other chance to change things, as you say democracy, but for now you need milk, and you have none unless you move forward and get some.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 16/08/2017 16:02

Enoch Powell probably was right.

Spoken like a true racist simpleton

mummmy2017 · 16/08/2017 16:03

David Cameron asked for very so little and didn't even get that.

Don't you wonder what he would have got if he had a right good paddy.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 16/08/2017 16:03

The labour manifesto was for leaving the EU and ending freedom of movement. As a socialist I think you can make a decent case for being against the flow of capital and labour.

bathildabagshot1 · 16/08/2017 16:03

"Enoch Powell was probably right"

I haven't seen any rivers of blood in the las 50 years.

The crap you are talking Mummy is exactly that crap.

We don't use the Veto very often because the EU very rarely proposes anything that isn't in the UK's interests.

"Had they given Cameron anything at all you would not sadly be lamenting the lose of our part in the EU."

Cameron got:

An exemption from ever closer union. Which makes any point about an EU superstate invalid.

He got a deal which allowed an emergency brake on in work benefits meaning that they can only claim limited benefits for up to 4 years.
Child benefit claimed for children in other countries will be set at the level it is in that country.

Cameron won further recognition that the UK wouldn't need to take part in Eurozone bailouts ( although this had already been agreed)

He got an agreement on lowering red tape.

Cameron got an agreement that national parliaments would be able to challenge EU law.

He basically made one or two compromises on benefits and got all that he wanted

Again, peddling the myth that the EU didn't give David Cameron anything is a brexiteer favourite, and along with all of their favourite points, its not factual.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 16/08/2017 16:04

Justanotherposter. Please explain how I'm a racist simpleton.

bathildabagshot1 · 16/08/2017 16:05

Well, you have just said that Enoch Powell was probably right in the rivers of blood speech.

You know that famously racist speech?

lessworriedaboutthecat · 16/08/2017 16:06

bathilda I think over the last couple of years we're seeing streams that will grow into a river. If you really want I can fill several pages full of terrorist attacks but we've all seen the news.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 16/08/2017 16:07

😂

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lessworriedaboutthecat · 16/08/2017 16:08

yes I did but you haven't proved that it was entirely wrong. Mass immigration was just one more wickedness that has been inflicted on the British people by their government without any sort of a democratic mandate. Has any party ever won a general election with more immigration in their manifesto.

bathildabagshot1 · 16/08/2017 16:11

Funny that all terroist attacks in the UK have been committed by UK nationals.

The ones in Paris? French and Belgian nationals.

There have been some comitted by refugees, but very few comitted by refugees that were newly in Europe.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 16/08/2017 16:12

This is what free movement of people has brought the UK. We now have slavery in this country.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40885353

bathildabagshot1 · 16/08/2017 16:12

Please tell me what problems "mass immigration" has inflcted on the UK.

I'm going to enjoy this.

mummmy2017 · 16/08/2017 16:12

FaithHopeCharityDesperation

Sat with tears in my eyes, that is so so so so so funny.

bathildabagshot1 · 16/08/2017 16:14

You think human traficking and FOM are the same thing.

Gosh I love my suspicions being validated.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 16/08/2017 16:15

bathilda that makes it worse. Your argument is essentially the refugee's are ok but their children and grandchildren will be right bastards.

Bearbehind · 16/08/2017 16:16

Quota.
The WTO has agreed quota's.
Eu has quota for every country it represents.
We are leaving so part of that quota is UK property.

Happy to be corrected here but that's not my understanding of how it works.

My understanding is we need to agree with the EU countries what we keep as it results in a reduction in their overall quota.

lessworriedaboutthecat · 16/08/2017 16:16

bathilda do you think there is more or less slavery in the UK since freedom of movement was introduced

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 16/08/2017 16:17

You don't think human traficking has been simplified & enabled by FOM?

Gosh I love my suspicions being validated.

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