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Westminstenders: The Negotiations Continue - The DUP ones

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RedToothBrush · 20/06/2017 17:57

Tomorrow is the Queen’s Speech. In honour of that the start of this thread is written in its honour:

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Immigration is bad. Except for that good immigration.
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Brexit means Brexit
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Pilot scheme.
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Money for –the DUP-- NI
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Brexit means Brexit
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The Internet is Bad. Newspapers are good.
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Brexit means Brexit.
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Britain wave your flag.
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(The Queen’s turns over the page to read the back of the A4 sheet, only to find it blank)

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whatwouldrondo · 22/06/2017 11:41

Jo Johnson is different to his brother, head down, he does get into the detail and he has a reasonably good relationship with the Universities because he does listen. However he has presided over the Higher Education and Research Act which as well as making some potentially good changes has the Tory agenda of marketisation with all the attendant risks for our universities running through it like a stick of rock. It is currently shelved, and it is not clear whether that agenda was imposed on him, it which may even be shelved at Jo Johnson's instigation, but it does raise issues about his political stance......

LurkingHusband · 22/06/2017 11:42

The MailOnline is nothing to do with the Daily Mail.

Is it just a "franchise" ?

You know the ones (looks a W.H. Smith, Costa ...) where the signage, colouring and branding is indistinguishable from a "proper" store, but you only learn it's a franchise when they say you can't use your loyalty card. The phrase "sharp practice" is so much less effective than scamming bastards.

Apropos of nothing, I really can't remember the last time I bought anything from W.H. Smug.

RedToothBrush · 22/06/2017 11:44

Love the web address.

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RedToothBrush · 22/06/2017 11:46

James O'Brien‏*@mrjamesob*

Paul Dacre seems to be in receipt of a large payment directly linked to his involvement with Mail Online. At odds with today's op-ed?

Completely separate entities. In no way connected.

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nauticant · 22/06/2017 11:51

First they felt entitled to be free of tax.

Then they felt entitled to be free of law.

And now they feel entitled to be free of reality.

RedToothBrush · 22/06/2017 11:51

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-social-tenants-luxury-flats/
James O'Brien Shocked By Conditions Social Tenants Live In Luxury Flats
James O'Brien was left flabberghasted after discovering how social housing tenants live like second-class citizens in their own homes.

She lives in one of 10 social housing flats in a development of 60 properties. They have a separate front door - known colloquially as a "poor door" - by the other residents' bins.

They don't have a lift or access to any parking.

But the bit that really stopped James in his tracks was that they have no access to the development's garden. Other residents can take their dogs in it, but Jabeen's children are banned.

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RedToothBrush · 22/06/2017 11:52

Oh and the government are estimating that there are 600 tower blocks with cladding like Grenfell in the country.

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LurkingHusband · 22/06/2017 11:58

Seems nothing has changed:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40367686

Single parents with a child under two have won a court challenge as they face "real misery" from the government's benefits cap.

A High Court judge said the cap was not intended to cover such households, had "no good purpose", and the failure to exempt them was discriminatory.

The government said it intended to appeal and there would be no change to the cap while this process was ongoing.

(contd)

As my wise old Dad says: watch what the priest does, not what they say

squoosh · 22/06/2017 12:07

Did anyone see this video on BBC news ?
Recorded inside their vehicle, when the firefighters first saw the Grenfell blaze and their horrified comments:

I haven't listened to that. I've avoided listening to some of the more harrowing details (I know that makes me sound like a sad delicate flower) and can't even begin to imagine the horrors they witnessed.

I did see this tweet yesterday though and got the utter rage. Some men's sense of masculinity is so pathetically fragile.

Westminstenders: The Negotiations Continue - The DUP ones
Westminstenders: The Negotiations Continue - The DUP ones
RedToothBrush · 22/06/2017 12:25

I look forward to the appeal then...

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everthibkyouvebeenconned · 22/06/2017 12:37

With all these new jobs we can just let the leavers take their pick then! And what with the brain drain of anyone who can leave with a passport and/or job it's looking sunny for all of them.

Maybe that's what they really wanted...under skilled, under qualified people in position of power. Just like their masters. Currently an office administrator...no problem we've got an opening for head of finance. Come on down

The other day I was remembering the 1980s and the map they had with the job losses they stuck on it. Shall we bring that back too?

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 22/06/2017 12:37

nauticant

That doesn't apply to the fruit farmer being interviewed this morning on Today on Radio 4. He voted Leave because "sovereignty" and was complaining bitterly that it looked like his business might be severely adversely affected

I listened to this too. So angry at that farmer but also at the interviewer. I would have loved to know exactly what the farmer wanted when he talked about "sovereignty"

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 22/06/2017 12:37

Flowers for sos get well soon

nauticant · 22/06/2017 12:44

What made it worse for me WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid is that he sounded reasonably intelligent and not like a thick idiot. The way he seems to have considered the matter is like buying on a house on the basis of the freshly painted bright red door ("I mean it looks so lovely, have you seen how lovely it looks?") without thinking what might be behind it. Without thinking that he might be buying a gutted and uninhabitable house.

I've annoyed myself again now!

BatSegundo · 22/06/2017 12:47

"And now they feel entitled to be free of reality"
Grin nauticant

We've been free of reality for quite some time with the Tory Newspeak ("More for less" etc) and Brexit unicorns.

MsHooliesCardigan · 22/06/2017 12:51

I know this is being pedantic but what does Hammond mean by not moving everything in on the first day you buy a house?
We moved house last year and did move everything in on the first day - isn't that what most people do? Unpacking is a different matter

HashiAsLarry · 22/06/2017 12:57

As this is an mp I'm going to suggest the one thing you don't move into your new house on day 1 is your mistress Grin

nauticant · 22/06/2017 12:59

It's what the non-rich tend to do. He's lost sight of what it's like for normal people. A rather telling admission.

BatSegundo · 22/06/2017 13:02

Lord knows MsHoolies. I suspect that he's either so rich that he actually needs more than a day to move his vast collection of bling from one mansion to the other and/or that he employs a team of minions to pack, move and unpack his stuff over a few days while he languishes in a luxury hotel, blissfully ignorant of the practicalities of how long stuff takes.

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 22/06/2017 13:12

Another Marie Antoinette

Ever feel like you are shifting more to the left?

OlennasWimple · 22/06/2017 13:15

MsHoolie when you have multiple properties it's not necessary to move all your belongings into your new gaffe. Man of the people, Hammond....

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 22/06/2017 13:17

is that he sounded reasonably intelligent and not like a thick idiot

I think the problem is people have a fantasy about what life will be like. They focus on the good stuff and minimise or ignore the bad. Any issue people felt frustrated about - Brexit was the solution. Logic just goes out of the window.

Friends of my parents moved to a very rural location in their (very) late sixties. It was going to be amazing, peaceful, pottering about in a large garden till the end of their days.

Eight years later their health is failing, they are struggling to look after the property and its garden. Can't hire help as it's so isolated. Getting to the GP / hospital is tricky.

All of this was predicted (very gently) by my mum and dad. But noooo they were just being negative, couldn't they see how amazing this move was for their friends?

This is how I feel about Brexit. There's been a vote, the majority believed the bollocks and we are moving.
We've looked closer and the house is in the middle of fecking no where. There's no jobs, at least not any jobs people actually want to do. The roof needs fixing and there's no money anymore to fix it.

And instead of doing the sane thing and pointing out that we might be better off staying put. I'm meant to shut up and get on with packing my bags.
When the car brakes down on the way there - that will be my fault cause the car runs on wishful thinking and I wasn't positive enough.

RedToothBrush · 22/06/2017 13:20

OH NO!

Won't someone think of Wimbledon?

Looks like the Jam Plan is fecked too.

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-latest-british-strawberry-price-rise-fruit-farms-eu-workers-seasonal-labourers-pickers-a7802616.html
Brexit: British strawberry prices set to soar by 50% as fruit farms face 'cataclysmic' fate without EU workers
The UK's £1.2bn soft fruit industry relies heavily on migrant labour and farmers warn it isheading for 'disaster'

feigns Shock

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miserableaboutbrexit · 22/06/2017 13:24

Long and short of it:
Four single parents with children under two had a benefit cap imposed on them because they did not work 16 hours a week. The judge ruled that it was impossible for them to actually be able to do this due to child care issues.

From BBC news:

Mr justice Collins:

"Most lone parents with children under two are not the sort of households the cap was intended to cover and, since they will depend on DHP (Discretionary Housing Payments), they will remain benefit households.
"Real misery is being caused to no good purpose."

Not how our government sees it....:

A spokesman for the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) said the government was "disappointed" with the decision and intended to appeal.

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 22/06/2017 13:26

When Yes yes