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Westminstenders: The Negotiations Continue - The DUP ones

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RedToothBrush · 20/06/2017 17:57

Tomorrow is the Queen’s Speech. In honour of that the start of this thread is written in its honour:

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Immigration is bad. Except for that good immigration.
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Brexit means Brexit
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Pilot scheme.
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Money for –the DUP-- NI
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Brexit means Brexit
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The Internet is Bad. Newspapers are good.
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Brexit means Brexit.
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Britain wave your flag.
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(The Queen’s turns over the page to read the back of the A4 sheet, only to find it blank)

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citroenpresse · 22/06/2017 10:33

Netherlands has announced bid to be home of European Medicines Agency. Dublin, Barcelona and Copenhagen also keen. EBA sounds a bit more complex (Eurozone, non eurozone etc).

LurkingHusband · 22/06/2017 10:37

House prices plummeting

I noticed a (disgusting) slew of stories via FB that the existing residents of the areas where the Grenfell survivors are being housed have already started complaining ...

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/outrage-as-luxury-flat-residents-complain-rehomed-grenfell-families-will-lower-house-prices-a3570331.html

It's rare to feel a physical reaction to events around you, but to have a shiver of revulsion takes some doing.

Two weeks ago, if you had tried to sell a script where a terrible human tragedy leads to the well-heeled complaining, it would have to have been some sort of fiction Sad.

I only hope all the decent people - regardless of their political views - felt the same sickness I did. Or we're f**d

LurkingHusband · 22/06/2017 10:40

Netherlands has announced bid to be home of European Medicines Agency. Dublin , Barcelona and Copenhagen also keen. EBA sounds a bit more complex (Eurozone, non eurozone etc).

If the EU were the sinister organisation it's supposed to be, I would hope they'd be able to place lots of ex-UK stuff into the ROI just for the lolz.

It would be a delicious echo of the final part of HoC (UK) where Francis Underwood has to look out of his window every day at the statue of Thatcher ....

BigChocFrenzy · 22/06/2017 10:48

(Times paywall) The Tory brand is being trashed all over again < any sobs here ? >

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-tory-brand-is-getting-trashed-again-0g6dl83tz

The Tories are said to be the oldest and most electorally successful party grouping anywhere in history.
That illustrious lineage, through three centuries of evolution,
has established in the public imagination an erroneous assumption that for all its faults the ruthless Conservative Party at least knows what it is doing when it comes to wielding power.

If anyone is still labouring under that delusion then events in recent days will surely have dispelled it.
The shambles Theresa May is making of forming a government invites an awkward question:

if the Tory party cannot any longer do “statecraft” then what is the point of it?

The attempts to forge a partnership with the Democratic Unionists suggest the Tory high command doesn’t have an answer.

This should not have been a difficult business to handle because the DUP regards Jeremy Corbyn as virtually a member of the IRA.
“There was no need for a formal deal,” says a baffled minister.

A simple but firm explanation to Unionists that defeating a Tory minority administration means Gerry Adams being a regular guest at Chequers should have sufficed.

Instead, almost a fortnight of back and forth has astonished the DUP,
which professes itself unnerved by the amateurish approach taken by No 10.

I wonder whether the Tory summer shambles
— after last year’s post-referendum antics and now this
should be an annual event in the social season, alongside the Chelsea Flower Show, Glyndebourne, Ascot and Henley. Grin
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How long can the PM survive in such circumstances?
My assessment that she is finished, with colleagues attempting simply to get through until recess, was rejected as too pessimistic by one Tory aide.

Mrs May, she said, might go on much longer than that.
How long?
“Oh, until Conservative Party conference at the beginning of October.”

The long-term prognosis for a leader who was unassailable only a fortnight ago is thus under four months.

With Mrs May’s authority gone the Tory tribe is doing its vocal exercises ahead of the second act in what amounts to a three-act comic opera exploring the vicissitudes of leadership. Grin

Last year act one featured Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, David Cameron, George Osborne and Theresa May.
Some of the cast are back this summer, albeit in different roles Grin

citroenpresse · 22/06/2017 10:57

If a Grenfell resident is 're-housed' based on their name being on the tenancy document but were illegally subletting, should action be taken against them? Should the 'resident' of their apartment (i.e. the one who had to go through the fire), be the one rehoused? Should they take priority (i.e. if they have jobs, kids etc) over those who are legal citizens? Who should be deciding this?

It's so complex....But I'm glad the Corporation has found homes.

BigChocFrenzy · 22/06/2017 10:58

These are actually sensible measures announced by May:

  • All highrise blocks of flats are being checked. Several so far found with flammable cladding, so at risk of fire
  • Those at risk will be moved urgently to alternative accommodation
  • There will be an independent public advocate to help bereaved families after major disasters

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/residents-in-fire-risk-blocks-in-london-to-be-moved-out-theresa-may-says-a3570511.html

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/outrage-as-luxury-flat-residents-complain-rehomed-grenfell-families-will-lower-house-prices-a3570331.html

Mrsmartell08 · 22/06/2017 11:02

God LH
😡😔

RedToothBrush · 22/06/2017 11:07

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/06/fire-station-shut-by-boris-johnson-to-be-turned-into-luxury-flats-by-company-owned-run-tory-donor/#more-65113
Fire station shut by Boris Johnson to be turned into luxury flats by company run by Tory donor

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nauticant · 22/06/2017 11:07

The mess the Tories are in must count as one of the stand-out examples of entitlement gone wrong in a very long time.

But the truly remarkable thing is that they don't seem to have got it. Even though it's staring them in the face.

squoosh · 22/06/2017 11:10

I loved how candid Anna Soubry was on the Brexit Means Brexit documentary last night. I'm sure the Tories groan every time she's interviewed.

everthibkyouvebeenconned · 22/06/2017 11:11

Ah. As I predicted they will let May caretake until conference. So the leadership contest may start in August for the crowning

I might place a bet on Jo Johnson

Mrsmartell08 · 22/06/2017 11:12

Oh Christ not a Johnson

Peregrina · 22/06/2017 11:13

not only might they need to pay decent wages, they might well need to provide accommodation - it's not easy finding cheap short-term digs.

Where do the current Romanian and Bulgarian fruit pickers live? Is that not an admission that their accommodation is sub-standard?

BigChocFrenzy · 22/06/2017 11:17

I understood the Tory aim with "taking back control" of immigration is to keep all the cheap labour that farms and businesses want

  • but to remove most of their existing rights

So the poorest - of all nationalities - will be easier to exploit
for ever lower wages
and will be even more forced to live in overcrowded substandard accommodation

Peregrina · 22/06/2017 11:17

Jo Johnson is a lot more sensible than his older brother. For example, as higher education minister, he did not let the new research vessel be called Boaty McBoatface, even though that was overwhelmingly the will of the people. Instead he gave it the perfectly appropriate name of David Attenborough, saving the Boaty McBoatface name for one of the submersibles, which no one but the fish and other deep sea life are going to see.

citroenpresse · 22/06/2017 11:19

Brexit means Brexit was much better than the Theresa May prog. Love Nicholas Soames (sorry, but I do). Tories (policy couldn't be written on one side of A4) absolutely terrifying. Shouted at Jacob Rees-Mogg all over again.

Mrsmartell08 · 22/06/2017 11:19

I'm embarrassed to admit I know nothing of jo

RedToothBrush · 22/06/2017 11:20

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/cruel-tory-benefit-cap-dealt-10666837
Cruel Tory benefit cap dealt landmark High Court defeat as judge warns it causes 'real misery to no good purpose'
A judge ruled "real misery is being caused to no good purpose" after ruling in favour of a group of toddlers' struggling single parents

Long and short of it:
Four single parents with children under two had a benefit cap imposed on them because they did not work 16 hours a week. The judge ruled that it was impossible for them to actually be able to do this due to child care issues.

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BigChocFrenzy · 22/06/2017 11:25

Did anyone see this video on BBC news ?
Recorded inside their vehicle, when the firefighters first saw the Grenfell blaze and their horrified comments:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/oh-my-god-there-s-kids-in-there-firefighters-whose-voices-can-be-heard-as-they-first-glimpse-a3569656.html

The moment the shocked firefighters first glimpsed the inferno for the first time and ask:
“How is that even possible?”

Sirens sound in the background as the fire engine speeds towards the burning high-rise building and one firefighter in the stunned crew says
“Oh my God, there’s kids in there”

Other voices on the recording can be heard saying
"Mate, is that… that’s not a real block with people in it?"

SapphireStrange · 22/06/2017 11:29

Philip Hammond concedes Brexit transition period could be 4 years: "When you buy a house you don't move all your stuff in on the first day."

As has been pointed out elsewhere, it depends on how many houses you have.

And how big they are/it is.

LurkingHusband · 22/06/2017 11:36

perfectly appropriate name of David Attenborough

I don't know ... it seems a touch odd to honour a living person this way. Which is no disrespect to the wonderful David Attenborough.

However, the episode does demonstrate how advisory polls work.

DividedKingdom · 22/06/2017 11:36

I think it's time the leavers stood up to be counted and got picking! Here are your jobs lads....the ones you didn't want in the first place

Yes! And on their breaks they can train up as nurses (morning break), doctors (lunchtime) and vets (afternoon tea break) to make the best use of their time to support our new-and-improved nation. Whilst simultaneously increasing their tax contribution by a very large amount to fill in the Brexit Black Hole of Finances, of course.

RedToothBrush · 22/06/2017 11:37

Sean Jones‏*@seanjonesqc*
Am I missing something? Daily Mail and MailOnline are both brands operated by DMG Media:
www.dmgt.com/about-us/our-companies/dmg-media
Dacre is shown as "Editor in Chief"

Mike Holden‏*@MikeHolden42*
If you send news items to Mailonline, their email address is (genuinely)
[email protected]

Paul Dacre - Editor in Chief
Paul Dacre joined the Group as US Bureau Chief in 1979. Appointed Editor of the Evening Standard in 1990, he has been Editor of the Daily Mail since 1992 and Editor-in-Chief of Associated Newspapers since 1998, years which saw the launches of Metro and MailOnline.

The MailOnline is nothing to do with the Daily Mail.

That's why its contact page is:

www.dailymail.co.uk/home/contactus/index.html

If anyone would like to report a factual inaccuracy this is the webpage where you can get information to do this:

www.dailymail.co.uk/home/contactus/article-3701580/How-Complain.html

But the MailOnline is NOTHING to do with the Daily Mail.
Apart from...
Oh.

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squoosh · 22/06/2017 11:38

I love that Dacre is losing his shit. This coupled with his election night hissy, it's all too lovely.

LurkingHusband · 22/06/2017 11:38

Philip Hammond concedes Brexit transition period could be 4 years

If he is using the normal UK government estimating machine, then it will be 12 years, and 3x whatever he says it will cost.