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Westministenders: Election Mayhem

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RedToothBrush · 02/06/2017 18:50

Tick tock, tick tock goes the Brexit Clock.

Don’t panic, just don’t turn up to debates because you have talks starting on the 19th June and have to perfect the 100 page document relating to at least 750 international agreements that need renegotiating before then. Anyone who turns up for their job interview for that, is just wasting time.

If only someone hadn’t called a distracting election.

This election was dubbed to be about Brexit. Yet it is remarkable that we have barely had debate over it. No one wants to admit it really. We nearly got a consensus between Barry Gardiner, Nick Clegg and David Davis over it being a political not economic decision on Question Time on Thursday 1st June, but we are not quite there yet with the admission that the economy is toast. This means the addition money the Conservatives have promised for the NHS won’t be available but we can’t have this discussion. Its properly the fault of purdah. Instead the subject rapidly got skipped over. Instead Davis said that the target May had just set for immigration to be at tens of thousands by 2022 was unrealistic.

In post-election rumour has it that Davis is about to get a promotion to the FCO, whilst Johnson gets the boot. On the other hand Gove is also rumoured for NI and May loyal Gummer gets Brexit.

Meanwhile the 1922 Committee of Tory Backbenchers are said to be plotting the downfall of at least one of May’s guard dogs, Nick Timothy following the decision about the Dementia Tax and subsequent U-Turn. Farage also mentioned Timothy in his statement over the breaking news that the CPS are pressing charges on the Conservative Candidate for South Thanet (the former MP there), his agent and a Tory Party official over election expenses. It seems almost inconceivable that Timothy can survive a traditional Tory Knifing.

This is all as May’s leadership approval ratings are in freefall as the honeymoon is firmly ends, after the public finally got to see her create an army of strawmen as answers, in a barely concealed contempt for the public’s concerns. May’s reaction to a negative reaction? Go back into hiding from media accountability and get the Mail to do her dirty work.

Elsewhere the EU have lined up to criticise Trump over his hard ball attempt to renegotiate the Paris Climate Deal. May was noticeable by her absence as she’s trying the same trick over Brexit and is desperate to keep Trump onside. What is Trump offering us in return? Apart from a Brexit Opportunity to get stiffed.

As for the polls? Despite them, it’s difficult to see the Tories not making a net seat gain. For Labour to do well it relies on widespread tactical voting, young who haven’t previously voted turning out in levels not seen since the 1970s and this being spread across the country and not concentrated in University areas. This will be tough to achieve to simply stop a Tory Landslide, never mind a hung parliament. Labour winning a majority is the stuff of pure fantasy (needs Lab to be 12points ahead of Cons). That said, if the result isn’t much different to the 2015 result, it will beg major questions over May’s leadership and her ability to read the public mood. It will say something about her refusal to engage with ‘the saboteurs’.

Expect an increased Tory Majority but not of the epic scale of 470 they originally were aiming for.

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RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 21:37

Nicola Sturgeon‏*@NicolaSturgeon*

4 seconds of film that provide a more powerful rebuke to the terrorists than any words ever could.

(She retweets the Dancing Copper with Kids vid)

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woman12345 · 04/06/2017 21:40

I love my city Yet again showing its shine. Smile
This country can be quite lovely too, this concert is reminding me of that. The young people seem pretty fantastic.

whatwouldrondo · 04/06/2017 21:45

I am Mrs Centrist sit on the fence and I strongly believe pragmatism is a better driver of good government than ideology. I still wish we could see a party of pragmatism and the centre emerge. However Corbyn has moved me during the campaign from a position where I wanted neither in power to one where I am beginning to feel more comfortable with the idea of Corbyn in or near Number 10, especially with Starmer at the Brexit negotiating table, and less and less comfortable with May and the other shower. I met Corbyn at an event at my university and he really is a genuinely nice man which helps, more likely to hug a kitten than eat it...

RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 21:46

Now THIS is more my music (though Liam's voice has been shot in recent years). This is my misspent youth!

SOOOO pleased he showed. He was supposed to be in Germany... but...
he was rumoured.

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RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 21:50

Going back to this tweet:

Paul Waugh@paulwaugh
Iain Duncan Smith just admitted on @BBCRadio4 that Tory Govt's shift from Labour's control orders to TPIMs 'watered down' terror effort

This article is from 2015. Its from Boris Johnson from when he was still Mayor of London
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11441203/Boris-Johnson-attacks-Theresa-May-for-easing-control-order-regime.html
Boris Johnson attacks Theresa May for easing control order regime
The Mayor of London says the Home Secretary made a “mistake” by modifying control orders in 2011, potentially allowing terrorists like Jihadi John to evade capture.

(I'm now imagining all the Ariana fans going 'what?' whilst their Dad's go MENTAL).

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ElenaGreco123 · 04/06/2017 21:53

I did not watch it because I was disappointed that there was no Gallagher brother.

RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 21:54

Live Forever.
(That's me done for, crying like a child.)

Get out your lighter!

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RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 21:55

Nice Coat.

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HashiAsLarry · 04/06/2017 21:57

rtb 😂

Not sure we should be enjoying this enforced performance though. When oh when will they unhandcuff him Wink

woman12345 · 04/06/2017 21:58

(I'm now imagining all the Ariana fans going 'what?' whilst their Dad's go MENTAL) Grin
Remember what happened last time Oasis were the thing.
The school choir finished me off.
He likes his Victoria Wood coats young Liam.

RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 22:03

Ben Lion Cooper‏*@cooper*_lion 3 hours ago
A rainbow over London Bridge this evening

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citroenpresse · 04/06/2017 22:05

Red However much people make cracks about Johnson, he could be really decisive about policing issues. Scotland Yard chief Sir Ian Blair (who he loathed) was despatched pronto in a way that Blair described as 'pleasant but determined'.

woman12345 · 04/06/2017 22:06

Smile What times.

citroenpresse · 04/06/2017 22:15

This is a lull woman12345. When May gets in with an 80 seat majority and is in charge of Brexit negotiations it will be 100% doom (for me). No positive upside at all.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/06/2017 22:16

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan

NEW COLUMN
Theresa May cut Britain's police force by 20,000 cops & now we're paying the price in blood.
[link to piece in mail t.co/OH9Az328QO?amp=1 ]

RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 22:25

If you think that Daily Mail story is shocking. Try this:

The Telegraph‏*@Telegraph*
Piers Morgan apologises to Ariana Grande #onelovemanchester

www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/06/04/piers-morgan-apologises-ariana-grande-criticising-wake-manchester/

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/06/2017 22:29

Gosh, he's apologised for something! Has that ever happened before?

PedaloBar · 04/06/2017 22:31

They're turning on her, but in whose favour?

RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 22:33

They're turning on her, but in whose favour?

Well it can't be Rudd now, even if she survives the election can it?

I don't know. Johnson to come 'charging in on a white horse'?

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ElenaGreco123 · 04/06/2017 22:34

In-laws have just told me that they would not vote. They are pensioners who are kippers, and feel no one represents them now.

Motheroffourdragons · 04/06/2017 22:42

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whatwouldrondo · 04/06/2017 22:42

What constantly haunts me is the comment by one of Clinton's team that was was really worrying was not so much Trump whose rise to power in spite of being dumb and an orange arsehole was worrying enough but that these forces could be exploited by somebody who actually was charismatic, and clever and manipulative. The same could now be said of May now that her strong and stable cover is blown. That person isn't Boris, he is lazy and would only fart about (as he did as Mayor of London) long enough for the risk to become too great that his Churchillian cover was blown.......

RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 22:50

Noah Smith‏*@Noahpinion*
1/OK, a quick thread about Islamist terrorism. Despite the horror of the London attacks, I argue there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
2/The 9/11 attacks, and other al Qaeda operations, were sophisticated operations planned by real trans-national conspiracies.
3/In contrast, recent Islamist terrorist attacks in Paris, London and the U.S. look more like unsophisticated local angry-dudes.
4/I suspect that copycatting is a big motivation behind these attacks, just as it was for mass shooters in America:
www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/06/contagious-killings-aurora-shooting-victims-dad-calls-new-shootings-copycats/?utm_term=.4c5eba36d220
5/"Angry dude decides to kill some people to get his name all over social media" is not something that can be easily fought.
6/But it's clear that the terrorists are no longer sending their best. They're not really sending anyone - just poisonous internet rhetoric.
7/Ironically, the media and social-media reaction to each of these attacks probably spurs more copycats. It's a self-perpetuating wave.
8/That wave will burn itself out. Being the 8th asshole to drive your car into a crowd is even lamer and less original than being the 3rd.
9/Anyway, to fight Islamist terrorism, first get rid of ISIS' proto-state, which is now being done:
www.businessinsider.com/isis-collapsing-report-2017-4
10/Also, put more pressure on the Saudis and Gulf states to stop funding radicalism around the world. Less of this, please.
11/And for the long term, deprive these countries of oil wealth by replacing oil with batteries.
12/And in the meantime, just try to anticipate and prevent terrorist attacks as best we can.
13/Remember, terrorism has been bad before. Don't let the Availability Heuristic make you think we're in an unprecedented crisis.
14/The Shouting Class is screaming its lungs out, but this says more about modern society than about the real threat we face. (end)

Only criticism is that the 8th Truck having no effect theory doesn't stop the violence. It just leads to the next escalation and evolution. But hey maybe he's right

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RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 22:55

Rob White‏*@RobWhite*_UK

Incredible statement from the Chrissy Archibald's family. #rip

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RedToothBrush · 04/06/2017 22:59

Alex Wickham‏*@WikiGuido*

Three people tell the BBC they warned the police about one of the London Bridge attackers
order-order.com/2017/06/04/three-people-warned-police-about-attacker/

Oh.

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