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Westministenders: Theresa's Common People

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RedToothBrush · 18/05/2017 13:50

She came from Oxfordshire she had a thirst for knowledge
She studied geography at Saint Hugh's College
That's where politics
Caught her eye

She told them that her husband was loaded
The press barons said "In that case have a rum and coca-cola"
She said "Fine"
And in thirty seconds time she said

I want to look like common people
I want to do whatever common people do
I want to eat like common people
I want to sleep like common people
Like you

Well what else could Fiona and Nick do
They said "We'll see what we can do"

They took her to a supermarket
I don't know why
But they had to start it somewhere
So it started there
They said pretend you've got no money
She just laughed and said
"Oh you're so funny"
They smiled "Yeah”
Well we can't see anyone else smiling in here

Are you sure you want to live like common people
You want to see whatever common people see
You want to eat like common people
You want to sleep like common people
Like me

But she didn't understand
She just smiled and held Trump’s hand

Order that benefits get the chop
Tell them all to get a job
Promise to bring back the grammar school
Pretend you don’t think them a fool
But still you'll never get it right
'Cause when you're laid in bed at night
Watching the news talking about building the wall
All have to do is call your mates to fake it all

You'll never live like common people
You'll never do whatever common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view
Whilst you blame it all on the EU
Because that’s all you can do

Sing along with the common people
Sing along and it might just get Brexit through
Laugh along with the common people
Laugh about leaving the EU

It’s the most stupid thing that you will do
Because you think that it is cool
You’ll call them a ‘lying foreigner’
But don’t say we didn’t warn you
You’ll regret saying we are better off out
'Cause everybody hates a benefits tourist

It doesn’t matter if you can’t do the math
With all those pockets that you grease
You’ll win the vote in Bath

You will never understand
How it feels to live your life
With no meaning or control
And with nowhere left to go
You are amazed that they exist
And wish they were all white
So you tell ‘The Big Lie’

Get THE flat above THE shop
Cut your hair and get THE job
Trick some mugs and hire some fool
Pretend you are not really cruel
But still you'll never get it right
Instead you're plotting late at night
About which ‘cockroach’ will take the fall
All have to do is call your mates to fake it all
Yeah

You'll never live like common people
You'll never do what common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view
As we plan to leave the EU
Because there's nothing else left to do

But ‘moan’ about how we don’t want to leave the EU.

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prettybird · 22/05/2017 17:34

I have just sullied myself by deliberately clicking through to the Conservative website via its ad when I googled "Dementia Tax" off to have a shower Wink

I wonder if that will now mean I get targetted on Facebook? If their analytics are any good, they wouldn't waste their money on me.....let's see Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 22/05/2017 17:39

btw, howabout my views about Scotland being dictated to by England come from an admittedly small sample - Scottish friends who are from an extended military family.
They say many Scots military families are very bitter about being dragged into umpteen wars they feel are more about politcians' egos and the Special Relationship; no benefit or relevance to Scotland.

I don't know if the 40% of Uk military being Scottish that they quote is just the Falklands or the 1992 Iraq war, or what.
It seems too high to be generally the case ?

Anyway, I accept nonmilitary families might feel quite differently about England.

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 17:41

BBC News (UK)‏*@BBCNews*
David Moyes resigns as Sunderland boss

Sunderland is having a moment.

michael sheen‏*@michaelsheen*
May totally buckled on 'dementia tax' OR messed up putting the policy together in first place. So either SPINELESS or INEPT. Which is it?

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 18:03

Britain Elects‏*@britainelects*
Welsh Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 44% (+9)
CON: 34% (-7)
PC: 9% (-2)
LDEM: 6% (-1)
UKIP: 5% (+1)

(via @YouGov / 18 - 21 May)

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BestIsWest · 22/05/2017 18:13

I saw that earlier Red. They were even predicting a Lab gain of 1 seat in Wales.

BigChocFrenzy · 22/05/2017 18:14

Wow in Wales !
Tory lead of +6 changed to Labour lead of 10%

Fieldwork 18-21 May
Change is from 2 weeks ago

BluePeppers · 22/05/2017 18:14

red yes you are oayingnper clivk with google ads.
So the more people click on these ads, the ore it will cost the party.

Fwiw, it's known in other sectors, that some rivals will deliberately click on your link.....

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 18:20

Just when you think you've seen it all from UKIP....
If you are in South Suffolk here's your man.

www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/this-ukip-candidate-wants-the-uk-to-invest-in-asteroid?utm_term=.mapJn4oXB#.vvqqZ4ANB
This UKIP Candidate Wants The UK To Invest In Asteroid Mining Post-Brexit

Expect it to be official Conservative party policy by 9th June.

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BigChocFrenzy · 22/05/2017 18:21

The next Scottish Poll will be v interesting:

In 2014, 2015 and 2016 Ruth Davidson distanced herself from the Westminster Tory party and seems to have detoxified SCON.

However, since May's election, RD has been her faithful shadow and has done her own U-turns on Brexit and the rape clause.

Are RD and SCON still considered separately from the main Tory party ?
Will the Teflon still work, or will their vote also suffer a bit ?

LurkingHusband · 22/05/2017 18:26

Just got my copy of the BBC History magazine today, and there's a good interview with Hilary Mantel, which set me wondering about the English reformation as a cipher for Brexit, if we take the Pope and Catholic Church to be the EU ...

A lot of influential people agitated for it before it happened
A lot of influential people stood to gain a lot if it did happen
The same people had a lot to lose if it was reversed, so had every incentive to ensure it became permanent (note the subsequent ban on Catholic monarchs ...)
Henry VIII himself was "advised" by these influential people.
Propaganda on both sides.
Common folk ignored completely (despite it being "in their name")

Maybe the reappearance of the Henry VIII clause isn't accidental at all. Maybe the protestant zealots have re-emerged to finish the break with Rome ????

I wonder what other parallels an A level history class could find
there are ????

(goes back to his novel writing).

Kaija · 22/05/2017 18:28

There was an edition of "The Long View" on Radio 4 last year on this exact thing - probably on iPlayer and worth listening to.

LurkingHusband · 22/05/2017 18:39

Kaija

Cheers Smile - to my shame I only really listen to radio driving ...

prettybird · 22/05/2017 18:47

I don't think Ruth and the Scottish Conservatives are seen as separate from May - but they are riding on the back of an anti Indyref "coalition" - aided and abetted by Kezia actually advising people to vote Tory to beat the SNP Shock, so they will probably gain a few seats not on the basis of support for Conservative policies but because they are representing the "Unionist" party (it is after all the Conservative Party's full name Wink)

I'll also respectfully (of course Wink) disagree with Howabout: there are indeed many Scots who do see the Westminster control (NB: not the English) as a form of colonialism. There's nothing much we can do about it in the current set up though - it doesn't matter what Scotland votes, what England wants will always prevail (and Labour winning a few more seats in Scotland - or even every seat in Scotland - in 2015 still wouldn't have stopped the Conservative Government being formed and the consequent Brexit vote Sad).

A proper federal structure (including Full Fiscal Autonomy) might have addressed the democratic deficit and thwarted the impetus towards independence but I think that that window of opportunity has now closed.

howabout · 22/05/2017 18:56

Bigchoc very very surprised by your sampling. Most of my parents' generation in my family served in WW2 either voluntarily or by conscription. None of them have any time for the SNP.

The military families I know today tend to sign up because they are pro Union. This was one of the reasons there was so much controversy about the choice of electorate for Indyref1. Many of them were excluded by quirk of where they happened to be based at the time.

howabout · 22/05/2017 19:01

pretty a Federal structure is my preferred solution. I think anyone believing Scotland would have been truly Independent from England under the SNP Indyref1 proposals is kidding themselves. We would then indeed have been dictated to by Westminster, and Brussels as well, with absolutely no currency anywhere.

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 19:02

May is trying hard to smile in this Andrew Neil interview.

So far he's not going for the kill. But he has already called the manifesto uncosted and half baked.

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 19:03

This doesn't 'feel' like an interview in the way she's answering questioned though.

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 19:08

Flaps a bit when Neil says she's not being honest. Neil has asked it a second time.

Jeremy Corbyn wants to 'sneak' into No 10. Apparently. (I'm imagining dressed up as a comedy burglar for a sketch show)

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 19:11

David Wooding‏ @DavidWooding
Andrew Neil tells PM: "This must be the first time in history that a party had broken a manifesto policy before the election."

By Neil's standards he's going easy on her in my opinion. She still crap.

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 19:13

Jim Waterson @jimwaterson
Theresa May: "Jeremy Corbyn wants to sneak into Number 10 by playing on the fears of elderly and vulnerable people."

Rob Ford‏*@robfordmancs*
Daily Mail: "How DARE he steal our strategy!"

Snigger.

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 19:18

This interview:

Andrew Neil asks question.
May waffles on for ages not answering it.
Neil asks about details.
May flounders.
Neil asks again.
May flaps.
Neil pretty much goes. 'Ok if you say so'
May looks like a fool who is completely out of her depth.

He doesn't even need to push very hard. She looks over prepped but still manages to look under prepared at the same time.

This is dreadful. She is dreadful.

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prettybird · 22/05/2017 19:27

We'll have to agree to disagree as to just how independent we would have been howabout Smile- but we always were going to disagree given our differing views on the EU, FTAs and sovereignty Wink

FWIW: I have one friend who is an officer in the TA who was and is very strongly pro-Independence and another (also an officer and who used to be at least very involved with recruitment) who was a "Not Now" (and therefore No) in the Indyref but who, following Brexit, has changed to a Yes. (The latter is not even though he is friend someone I would want to meet on a dark night and be on the wrong side of - he looks like a pocket Daniel Craig, with the ruthlessness to go with it Grin)

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2017 19:30

Neil indignantly:
How can no deal be better than a bad deal but no deal means dire consequences? I'm trying to find out how dire the consequences are going to be?

She waffles. But doesn't answer the question.

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lalalonglegs · 22/05/2017 19:43

I bloody loved Jeremy Deller before but now I think he's pure magic

www.theguardian.com/education/2017/may/22/jeremy-deller-strong-and-stable-my-arse-posters-london

MsHooliesCardigan · 22/05/2017 19:52

I agree she was dire. She had this constant look of exasperation on her face of 'How dare you challenge me?' And what was that awful chain she had round her neck? I couldn't take my eyes off it.