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Article 50 has been triggered (finally!).
Now we move onwards to the future 🍻

All welcome, as ever...

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www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-eu-negotiator-europe-euratom-airline-safety-negotiations-theresa-may-worse-anyone-guessed-a7858586.html

Yes it is depressing Randomly. I've read so many comments accusing any warnings about Brexit as scaremongering, more than ever people are only interested in confirmation bias. I can only bear to read the headlines of the Sun occasionally - losing EHIC cards in 2019 is the fault of the horrible EU. What else did they expect?

It was never going to be easy, we knew that.
Leaving the EU will mean quite a few difficult years, but in 20 years time it will all be worth it.

& where's everyone I know?

I appreciate that you believe that Surfer. At least like my friend you are recognising it will be a struggle, you knew what we are going to lose, or at least had an inkling? Confirmation bias by the way is prob both ways with stories of how Brexit might not happen....the vote won even if some have changed their minds. Another referendum would be too toxic to contemplate.

20 years time.... Great....
Rest of my working life.....
Here's looking forward to a crappy retirement.
Cheers

Hi Surfer 🍻 - I'm still here but mostly lurking these days.

In the words of Edith Piaf it's "Non, je ne regrette rien" from me.

TheWorld just to depress you even more - you'd better hope that the government shifts their arses on coming up with something to replace Euratom pdq, as all the UK's medical isotopes (for cancer treatment etc) are currently imported under that treaty.

The medical physicists I know already told me that.....I think I'm going to take out shares in anti depressants.... Boom industry....

Leave supporter Lord Digby Jones has reassured us that things should be better in about 100 years time

.....so we'll all be dead and not able to say "I told you so" or "it was worth it" either way

On our summer hols surferjet. Brexits going just fine and contrary to the 'if we shout it loud enough it may be true' brigade, plenty of remainers have come over to the dark side. No such thing as 'leavers remorse'. Chin chin

plenty of remainers have come over to the dark side.

I don't believe that is anything other than wishful thinking on your part

What reasons have been cited by these people?

I can't imagine anyone who was a Remainer now thinking that everything is going so well that they're actually really glad we are leaving- it's a fucking shambles.

I know lots of people who voted leave thst think it's a fucking shambles and now wish they hadn't been persuaded. No one I know who voted remain now thinks leaving the EU is a good idea.

Surfer has enjoyed her life and is asking for the remainder of my worolung life and that of my childrens'.
Anyhow, the "will" of the people has changed. There is absolutely no way Leave would win if you hold referendum today. I hope the Leavers don't stand in the way if something is done about it democratically (for example, another referendum on terms of leaving or leaving with no deal etc).

I have children too.
Tbh, the only thing I'm worried about is staff shortage within the NHS.

So you mean the reciprocal deals we were doing to staff the NHS with junior doctors thst helped small EU countries and helped us that are now being shelved? You mean those ones? Or the Polish consultants I personally know who are going to work in Germany because their children are having a rough time?

The moral of the story - don't get sick (unless you have private healthcare).

Tbh, the only thing I'm worried about is staff shortage within the NHS.

Price worth paying though eh? Bringing the NHS to its knees...

"don't get sick (unless you have private healthcare)."............ in all other EU nations. LOL. You guys are toooo funny.

Guess we're unlucky enough to have a small percentage of the 22%. Theres data, data and then data....

I think you'll find quite a few EU countries with state funded healthcare systems.

LOL.

caroline you know that's the pre election poll by yougov (who have questionable data sampling) that predicted that May was going to get a landslide victory......

TheWorld it's this YouGov survey taken just post the 2017 GE - I like the following figures from it though:

"How well or badly do you think the government are doing at negotiating Britain's exit from the European Union?"

Well = 22%
Badly = 49%
Don't Know = 29%

And:

"And do you think the other member states of the European Union will or will not agree to the sort of Brexit deal that Theresa May is proposing?"

Will agree = 20%
Won't agree = 60%
Don't know = 20%

Tbh, the only thing I'm worried about is staff shortage within the NHS.

Hopefully not outing myself because confidentiality is a must in our field. I work in a field indirectly connected to NHS. Also connected distantly to the City and lots of places around Canary Wharf.
Even If we reverse Brexit/article 50 within the next hour, irreparable damage has been done.
You think 20 years will give us something back? I think in 20 years, my DCs will have to make their lives somewhere else if they want a shot at living standards.