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Brexit

Westministenders: Its time to fire the starting gun. At our own heads.

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RedToothBrush · 15/03/2017 12:03

Its time for the suicide. The note will say simply, "The EU made us do it".

David Davies, says that despite May’s assertion that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK, that actually we don’t know this as he hasn’t got round to quantifying the impact of no deal.

He still has no answers for anything apart from “I dunno” and “I’ll do it later”. I can’t wait for when the dog ate my homework excuse.

After 9 months. That’s how far we’ve got. Brexit negotiation skills will have 18 months (not 2 years as it’ll need to be ratified). We are still hiring people for the Brexit department. What about all these EU agencies that the UK will have to replicate and hire and train up in 2 years time?

I’m still waiting for Davies to tell me what all these potential benefits he keeps going on about are too. Benefits for who exactly? Ah yes we know the answer to this one too, even if its not being said. Its political elites and elites with lots of money who can consolidate power and enslave the population through debt and desperation. Goodie. Just what I’ve always wanted. As long as I can wave my Union Jack. Oh. Shit. Bugger.

Nicola Sturgeon, has been doing a good job of showing Brexiteers exactly what they look like to Remainers by holding up the mirror of irony to the Vampires of the 19th Century State. The sight of them tripping over themselves saying its irrational to hold a ‘blind vote’ and that the economic argument is flawed is hilarious. If you are not British.

Hammond has been forced to u-turn on NIC budget announcement as it was not in the spirit of the manifesto. What happened to the manifesto pledge to the protect interests in the Single Market. Lets be honest, the New Tory Manifesto read simply: “We’ll wing it and see what we can get away with”. I wonder how many people would vote for that.

Its Brexit at all costs. No matter what. We must keep the foreigners out. Even though Davis hasn’t done an assessment on the financial impact of migration. Just think about that for a second. Actually don’t because you might actually want to shoot yourself in the head.

At best the government are still relying on Game Theory as a basis for their negotiations and the EU are already going, “Er we don’t think so”.

Perhaps this is the intention of May’s tour to build consensus. She’s handing out guns and bullets to anyone who displays rational thought, to blow their own brains out.

May’s weakness is her manner and her chip on her shoulder for the law. Her own party are not immune to it. She seems to think trade deals are not done based on goodwill. May’s weakness is Britain’s folly.

Pass the blindfolds round, and get on your knees and await our own execution by our own hands.

Bang.

RIP The United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. I will remember you with nostalgic fondness but equally with bitterness and shame. Our finest hours are long since passed (and were tainted with the excesses of exploitation anyway) and we must accept this as part of the process of ‘accepting Brexit’.

Now its time for the empty hand to start being shown and the blame game to begin in earnest. The politics of hate have only just begun and the divorce has not started yet. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar are the kids we might not get custody of.

We’ll be blacking up again, running around groping women like Benny Hill and pushing people back into the closet as we hit the off switch before you know it. As well as having nice shiny new ID cards we’ll have to pay for the privilege of owning and carrying at all times, to prove we aren’t nasty illegal immigrants or those equally nasty legal ones clogging up our NHS (by working for it).

Don’t worry though. Uncle Donny will save us. If he doesn’t die suddenly after eating a bowl of Russia soup or have a fatal heart attack after accidentally falling out of a tenth story window.

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PattyPenguin · 21/03/2017 13:18

EU summit on Brexit will be on 29 April
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39337693

ShamefulDodger · 22/03/2017 00:05

Goodbye Welfare State, hallo survival of the fittest

Stuff like this has been terrifying me Sad

Sadly, I imagine my family is seen as a complete drain by right wingers (disabled parent, carer, disabled dd and ds)

I've been desperately trying to save up anything I can but it's a pitiful amount that wouldn't see us through a month.

All the predictions of benefits disappearing and starvation are making me feel so desperate. I used to be worried about DD's future but now I'm so scared.

mathanxiety · 22/03/2017 05:16

What FBI director James Comey didn't say during intelligence hearings today on possible Russian meddling in the 2016 US election was as important as what he did say.

Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, who had ties to pro-Russian Ukrainian politicians? No comment. Long-time Trump adviser Roger Stone, who reportedly had communications with individuals who hacked the Democratic National Committee emails? No comment. Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who was forced to resign after leaked evidence surfaced that he had communicated with a Russian ambassador about US sanctions? No comment.

"Will they do anything in the end, or is it just all for show ?" [Motheroffourdragons]

I believe it is all just for show. It is being done because there is a small group around John McCain who want Trump out. The rest of the GOP would be very happy with Pence as President. Pence is Paul Ryan's political soulmate.

It is notable that Manafort was once John McCain's campaign director. I think this is the reason Manafort was not mentioned - to do so would be to tarnish McCain.

Dianne Feinstein said in an interview recently that she thought Trump would resign. She referred to a trip DT's sons made to somewhere in the Gulf to strike deals for Trump's companies, with travel and expenses paid for by public funds it seems. The emoluments clause forbids this sort of conflict of interest and the funding is also very dodgy. The NY attorney general is gearing up to take on Trump on this issue. This is not even about Russia. It is about Trump's own very crooked business empire. There are also many conflicts of interest stemming from his position as employer, his IRS audit, etc.
www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/gs_121616_emoluments-clause1.pdf - this is a persuasive argument imo.

(And actually, Manafort's ties were all over the place in Ukraine, which is a cesspit of corruption no matter what political side you look at.)

Badders123 · 22/03/2017 15:00

HofP in lockdown

Shots fired

SapphireStrange · 22/03/2017 15:18

Fuck.

Badders123 · 25/03/2017 08:15

Agree with so much of what he writes!

Badders123 · 25/03/2017 11:57

Carswell quitting ukip
😂

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