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Brexit

Westministenders: Its time to fire the starting gun. At our own heads.

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RedToothBrush · 15/03/2017 12:03

Its time for the suicide. The note will say simply, "The EU made us do it".

David Davies, says that despite May’s assertion that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK, that actually we don’t know this as he hasn’t got round to quantifying the impact of no deal.

He still has no answers for anything apart from “I dunno” and “I’ll do it later”. I can’t wait for when the dog ate my homework excuse.

After 9 months. That’s how far we’ve got. Brexit negotiation skills will have 18 months (not 2 years as it’ll need to be ratified). We are still hiring people for the Brexit department. What about all these EU agencies that the UK will have to replicate and hire and train up in 2 years time?

I’m still waiting for Davies to tell me what all these potential benefits he keeps going on about are too. Benefits for who exactly? Ah yes we know the answer to this one too, even if its not being said. Its political elites and elites with lots of money who can consolidate power and enslave the population through debt and desperation. Goodie. Just what I’ve always wanted. As long as I can wave my Union Jack. Oh. Shit. Bugger.

Nicola Sturgeon, has been doing a good job of showing Brexiteers exactly what they look like to Remainers by holding up the mirror of irony to the Vampires of the 19th Century State. The sight of them tripping over themselves saying its irrational to hold a ‘blind vote’ and that the economic argument is flawed is hilarious. If you are not British.

Hammond has been forced to u-turn on NIC budget announcement as it was not in the spirit of the manifesto. What happened to the manifesto pledge to the protect interests in the Single Market. Lets be honest, the New Tory Manifesto read simply: “We’ll wing it and see what we can get away with”. I wonder how many people would vote for that.

Its Brexit at all costs. No matter what. We must keep the foreigners out. Even though Davis hasn’t done an assessment on the financial impact of migration. Just think about that for a second. Actually don’t because you might actually want to shoot yourself in the head.

At best the government are still relying on Game Theory as a basis for their negotiations and the EU are already going, “Er we don’t think so”.

Perhaps this is the intention of May’s tour to build consensus. She’s handing out guns and bullets to anyone who displays rational thought, to blow their own brains out.

May’s weakness is her manner and her chip on her shoulder for the law. Her own party are not immune to it. She seems to think trade deals are not done based on goodwill. May’s weakness is Britain’s folly.

Pass the blindfolds round, and get on your knees and await our own execution by our own hands.

Bang.

RIP The United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. I will remember you with nostalgic fondness but equally with bitterness and shame. Our finest hours are long since passed (and were tainted with the excesses of exploitation anyway) and we must accept this as part of the process of ‘accepting Brexit’.

Now its time for the empty hand to start being shown and the blame game to begin in earnest. The politics of hate have only just begun and the divorce has not started yet. Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar are the kids we might not get custody of.

We’ll be blacking up again, running around groping women like Benny Hill and pushing people back into the closet as we hit the off switch before you know it. As well as having nice shiny new ID cards we’ll have to pay for the privilege of owning and carrying at all times, to prove we aren’t nasty illegal immigrants or those equally nasty legal ones clogging up our NHS (by working for it).

Don’t worry though. Uncle Donny will save us. If he doesn’t die suddenly after eating a bowl of Russia soup or have a fatal heart attack after accidentally falling out of a tenth story window.

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lalalonglegs · 20/03/2017 18:39

I'm just working on the assumption that a grown-up will have taken charge by then, Peregrina...

Motheroffourdragons · 20/03/2017 18:40

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SwedishEdith · 20/03/2017 19:02

I'm going to a Keir Starmer talk in a few weeks.

lalalonglegs · 20/03/2017 19:07

Whatever happened to Stella Creasey? She always struck me as a good'un - you don't hear that much about her now but she might make a good fist of leadership.

Valentine2 · 20/03/2017 19:11

No Stella Creasy please. Shock she is just a tiny bit better than Jess Phillips and Jess Phillips is AWFUL.
To me, if the option is to choose between candidates like Creasy and Khan, I would always go with Khan no matter what.

prettybird · 20/03/2017 19:19

Motheroffourdragons - coincidentally, she mentions watching NCIS in that article (and I agree: if "now is not the time to be talking about Scottish Independence" or even for the courtesy to tell the FM the date that A50 would be triggered then surely she also doesn't have time to do photo shoots and interviews Hmm)

Definitely worthy of a Gibbs slap Grin

twofingerstoEverything · 20/03/2017 19:29

I notice she couldn't get through the interview without using her trademark 'I've been very clear...' (while totally avoiding the question).
She really is a twat.

twofingerstoEverything · 20/03/2017 19:30

Another TM quote from that interview:
She admits she did vote to remain in the EU referendum, but insists "what's important is that the country feels, I think, that it wants to come together".

I think she's got her work cut out there.

Motheroffourdragons · 20/03/2017 19:44

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Peregrina · 20/03/2017 19:53

After the disaster of Foot and Kinnock, first John Smith came on the scene, sadly not to live long enough, and then Blair apparently appeared from nowhere. Don't despair people. Evil Theresa won't last forever.

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2017 19:55

Pretty I am the biggest Gibbs fan < Gibbs special head slaps to the 3 Dunces Grin ! >

BigChocFrenzy · 20/03/2017 20:07

Past leaders of both major parties felt confident enough to allow other major figures in their party.

iirc, Wilson had in his cabinets Healey, Jenkins, Callaghan, Castel, Foot, Benn, Crossland ...
MrsT also had Big Beasts around her - Clarke, Whitelaw, Heseltine, Lawson etc
Both those PMs were firmly in charge, but had a wealth of talent in their cabinets

Since about 2000, all leaders seem so ruthless and intolerant of dissent (or maybe too insecure) that they hammer down any potential rival.
So, the next generation of leaders is lost from politics, or not allowed enough experience at high level.

whatwouldrondo · 20/03/2017 20:07

Old School - he wasn't a Russian bot ! Are you sure? In those days the Russians recruited from the establishment oxbridge elite, not the descendants of Thatcher's loadsamoney throwing their money at gaining power

Though "We have never had it so good" was the Brexit con of the 60s combined sit was with wage restraint and rising inflation.

However he did say "The pattern of the Commonwealth is changing and with it is changing Britain's position as the Mother Country. Our children are growing up." which probably sounds pretty commie to JRM.....

whatwouldrondo · 20/03/2017 20:10

Big Choc Castle with the a pronounced properly like in grass and bath...

Motheroffourdragons · 20/03/2017 20:45

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Peregrina · 20/03/2017 20:48

We have already been told on this thread that the devolved Governments weren't consulted.
Scottish Government Frozen Out

How does May expect to carry people along with her? I am pretty sure if I were a Scot, even one who had voted against Independence last time, that I would be thinking hard now about Independence. How can anyone be confident that Theresa May will consider their needs, if she hasn't the basic decency to inform the respective Governments?

BTW my first boss was at Bradford Girls Grammar at the same time as Barbara Castle. "She hasn't changed", was the opinion given.

Valentine2 · 20/03/2017 20:54

In my view, the labour party really has gone down the pan since the demise of the Blair Brown era.

I think it's them who brought Labour down though I appreciate the positive sides of that time (DH is a vocal advocate of the positives too).

Motheroffourdragons · 20/03/2017 22:15

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Peregrina · 20/03/2017 22:16

May's visit to India wasn't a sterling success and now it seems that Johnson may have to cut short his visit to Kenya.

When will they learn that if you go round insulting people you can't expect favours from them?

Motheroffourdragons · 20/03/2017 22:17

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 20/03/2017 22:20

The New Labour vision might not have suited the die hards, but the die hard vision doesn't work either.

The "die hard" version of Labour is actually traditional Labour.

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