The Brexit Arms.

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So.......where were we?

Semi please add, scuttling childish comrades to your list. I find Comrade the hardest insult to bear.

Noted with much pleasure yesterday that Juncker says he won't be standing for a second term, and that the EU won't be united during the Brexit negotiations.

Coming back to Vanilla's point about our closest allies; no-one has moved geographically, so no change to proximity Secondly, if you bother to match NATO nations and partners to EU member States, you will see that we are still in alliance with them. We are leaving the EU, not NATO.

Quite right Scary, I really don't understand why people think we are cutting all ties with Europe,

Anonymice, re the documentary - rather than giving answers about Brexit etc, the reason I recommend it is that it shines a light on the plight of the other member countries and how (in the non metropolitan areas) they feel like they've been sacrificed at the altar of the EU ideologists & Germany.

It will perhaps help to get in the mind of a lot of Leavers in Britain, not least as to why we'd rather leave now, than wait until the EU is in proper crisis.

Oh and apparently someone on here has posted a plan! One that was on the WM thread! Have I missed something?

Anonymice - no need to 'report back' on these threads either!
We're not demanding like that

Corcory - it might have been my plan from last night

Bendy bananas
Stronger hoovers
Better flushes on toilets
Taking back control
£350 million a week for the NHS
Chlorine-washed chicken
Have Marathons again instead of Snickers
Old light bulbs back
Get our country back
Not being forced to go metric

Although it was incomplete, I missed off:

Sensible shoe sizing
Blue passports
Non-watered down vodka

Semi Adler didn't make enough of the banking crisis in Italy. I think Unicredit has been shaky, and they own one of the middle ranking German banks I think, so if they toppled, then so would that German bank. The Eurogroup were also involved in the Monticello Pasch did Siena crisis as well. I note Greece is in the news again as well with its finances.

Bloody auto correct. Monte Paschi di Siena, is how it should read!

I'm just learning about Fear Conditioning at the moment.

Quite apt really.

(Well, it's what I'm supposed to be doing, but I keep distracting myself...)

(That post wasn't answering yours Scary )

scary

I didn't know re Juncker!! Great news but I do take issue with your - EU in unison comment - they are never ever in unison! Or at least not in immediate future maybe after 7 years thinking about something they manage to get briefly in line.

I have been reading about Italian banks for a long time now and I have mentioned Italy wants to leave the Euro and it wants to be the first country to leave it - to survive the wake caused, after such a calamity. I found documentary interesting explaining a little more as to why.

Is this banks being interlinked why Germany has fast tracked its repatriation of gold bullion ???????

gorgeous name for a bank though.

Wasn't that what Project Fear was all about though? With Brexit I was firmly in the ' feel the fear but vote leave anyway' camp. There were no guarantees either way, and I felt and still do, that we have have lost faith in our ability as a nation to go it alone since we have been in the EEC/EU.

It has pitted 41-year-old Renz, Italy’s youngest-ever prime minister, against German Chancellor Angela Merkel, in a row over rigid EU rules. It is the ambitious outsider and one-time fencing champion – who still keeps a sword in his office – versus the steely pragmatic German

In essence, Italy has come up with a plan to bail out its banks, and Merkel has rejected it because it is against EU legislation

Hard-line elements in Italy suggest it should simply flout the rules to save the Italian banking system, which is crippled with £301bn of bad debts

www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3674024/The-crisis-tearing-Europe-apart-Italy-s-PM-begging-35-billion-bank-bailout-Germans-saying-nein.html

Scary...I'd posit that at least 17.4m of us have kept the faith.

And re EU unison....its as Le Pen touches on...(members of) members states v globalists (who head up the EU commission/parliament etc)

Agreed that some US have kept the faith Bored, but so many can't seem to see how we can exist outside the EU. Makes me wonder how the rest of the civilised world not in the EU manages!

The inherent tension at the heart of the EU is the balance between what the member States want, and what the Commission thinks they need.

Yep, scary, exactly that.

A bit like what we know we need v what the remainers think we should need

EVER CLOSER UNION!!!

The sooner Angela Merkel goes the better quite frankly - too many leaders were in thrall to her (Cameron et al).

Agree Scary I cannot for the life of me fathom why remainers want people like Guy Verghast in control of their lives? Why?

Its like saying to school child, you have teacher in direct control of you - then head mistress, then we are going to give governers more power - and now we are adding more layers of people in control of them - who would vote for it - ( well no one - no one did - and when vote offered we voted NO thanks) but who would want this?

I just cant get my head round it - I cant!

Talk about turkeys being denied the vote for christmas!! These remainer turkeys dont even want to vote for it! They are saying - Yes please serve me up, dont forget the bread source!

I know Mrexit - we get the 'turkeys voting for Xmas' levelled at us repeatedly, but I see it the other way round.

I'm the turkey voting to escape the Xmas dinner plate - whilst they're actively welcoming the oven.

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YY Semi They say " the oven isn't hot enough, crank it up you want my skin nice and crispy!"

While all we pigs just sit here c(r)ackling!

Very happy too be a cackling pig that's free than a trussed up turkey believing slavery = freedom