To think this could mean the end of brexit?

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Now MPs will be able to block it. Could this be the end of this ridiculous brexit? MPs can not vote for something that they think will not be in peoples interest and its very clear the people that voted to brexit would be the ones worse off.

JO'B is doing a fab job on LBC today and most brexiters seem to be happy that it might not go ahead as they were fooled by lies!

Pass: I don't know what your question is here?

Could you expand on what it is exactly you don't know about the question?

I explained about how we don't elect a PM in a general election. You said: Unless you are Gordon Brown. Let's not forget history. Or do the Conservatives have a special leeway, i.e the press?

I didn't understand what your point was. I asked and you got rude. I was hoping you'd expand on your point but see that is unlikely.

Elendon: "But Hackmum why should all that happen, when it's obvious what the outcome will be? What a disgusting waste of Parliamentary time. And money!"

Sorry, I don't see what you mean - how is it obvious what the outcome is going to be? I'd say it's far from obvious. There's a huge amount of fine detail to be decided about the terms of Brexit, and the court's decision means that parliament will now have a say in that. I don't see how it can possibly be obvious at this stage what parliament will eventually decide - they will have to listen to all the arguments first and evaluate them. Because that's how a democracy is supposed to work, believe it or not.

To the best of my understanding, Elendon, the terms of the UK's withdrawal from the European Union cannot be negotiated with the European Union until Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty has been triggered. They were not known before the referendum took place, and won't be known for a while yet.

Elendon
Who is going to revolt? How will that happen? I can't see older members of the community coming out with their Zimmer Frames.

You think? My walking frame and I are ready.

This court has decided Hackmum, but the government (not Parliament) is taking that decision to the Supreme Court. That is going to cost money, public money (and it's not cheap).

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-legal-challenge-latest-theresa-may-supreme-court-article-50-case-uk-eu-high-court-win-loss-a7395036.html

The UK hasn't even started on negotiations yet. Sources, within the Government, now say the triggering of article 50 will be moved to July 2017. And so on and so on. Oh the irony if it goes before the ECJ - which it probably will.

Tuk All EU countries have a dossier if an EU referendum should trigger Article 50. The UK dossier is 80,000 pages long (and probably doesn't even touch the surface with regard to terms). Hope that helps.

I don't understand, Elendon - surely no country wanting to withdraw from the European Union can set the terms of their withdrawal from it, it has to be negotiated with them, once Article 50 has been triggered, doesn't it? The dossier might be a country's wish list for the terms of their withdrawal, but wouldn't it be completely unenforceable unless agreed in negotiations with the rest of the members of the EU?

Nobody knew what Brexit would entail on June 23rd AND WE STILL DON'T!

I'd like parliament (at the very least), to have a say on the eventual deal. Actually, I'd like it to be put to another referendum, since it would be nice to know what we're voting for this time, but after the leave vote I don't the British people will ever be asked for their opinion on anything ever again.

Could this be the end of Brexit? I'd like to think it will be, but I doubt it. It really sucks that the 37% of Brits who voted leave will drag the remaining 63% of us out of the EU against our will, but that's 'democracy' for you. I'm glad un-elected Theresa May isn't going to set the agenda though, with her threats of 'hard Brexit', which fuck our economy over for years to come.

Draylon when you're done with a sweeping negative characterisation of any that voted Leave, perhaps you could rejoin the thinking public.

It really sucks that the 37% of Brits who voted leave will drag the remaining 63% of us out of the EU against our will

Actually it's 34% who are being dragged out against their will.

HTH!

Laura Kuenssberg on BBC news talking about possibility of General Election. 'Blindingly obvious' option if May can't progress.

Tbh I think this has always been May's strategy. Then she can get shot of various ministers, too.

If Labour don't install Keir Starmer after GE they are berks.

Tuk A country comes to the table with its terms of conditions for withdrawal. I didn't say ONCE that the country doing that sets out the terms. A country cannot go to the table empty handed!

Greenland had one term: fishing. It took three years of negotiations for all the countries to agree on the amended terms - it certainly wasn't anything like what Greenland wanted, but in the end all agreed.

I agree with this ruling, on the basis that Parliament has to decide and not Government via Royal Prerogative (which in my opinion, is profoundly undemocratic).

I voted remain but I disagree totally with this court ruling. As far as I'm aware the Referendum was agreed by Parliament therefore the result shouldn't need further "approval" from MP's. Makes a mockery of the whole thing really if they stop it from going ahead.

frosty it's about the detail of the wording of the act that brought about the referendum. Hugely significant detail.

The superior "oh they voted for leave so clearly are stupid and didn't know what they were voting for" nonsense is old. Find something new to bitch out.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not mean they are uneducated nor does it mean that they have not informed themselves about what the situation involved.

Sorry, Elendon, but you said: "Of course Parliament knows what the terms are. It was made very clear what the terms would be on leaving previous to the referendum." Very different from what you're now saying about coming to the table with the wish list of terms of conditions for withdrawal, in my vocabulary, anyway!