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Brexit

To think this could mean the end of brexit?

665 replies

jdoe8 · 03/11/2016 11:26

Now MPs will be able to block it. Could this be the end of this ridiculous brexit? MPs can not vote for something that they think will not be in peoples interest and its very clear the people that voted to brexit would be the ones worse off.

JO'B is doing a fab job on LBC today and most brexiters seem to be happy that it might not go ahead as they were fooled by lies!

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BarbarianMum · 03/11/2016 16:38

Well Gilly that's democracy for you Wink We get who we vote for and collectively we deserve it.

GingerIvy · 03/11/2016 16:40

Tuk you evil soul, you. Isn't that entrapment? Grin

PassTheCremeEggs · 03/11/2016 16:41

No they don't know the terms. No one does because they haven't been negotiated yet. And negotiations can't start until article 50 is triggered. What terms were made clear before the referendum Elendon?

pigsDOfly · 03/11/2016 16:46

What were the terms of leaving that were made clear before the referendum Elendon?

PassTheCremeEggs · 03/11/2016 16:47

Also as an aside, it's an uncomfortable situation but no one actually elects a prime minister. We elect our MPs. Party with majority in the house forms government and that party's leader becomes prime minister. Theresa May's party was elected and she is the current leader and therefore PM. It's just it doesn't happen very often many make their decision about which MP to vote for based on the current leader of that party.

Elendon · 03/11/2016 16:53

The terms come within an 80,000 page document, it includes myriads of legal issues. If I had to list them all I might just break the internet! This has been a lengthy relationship. Greenland left with one issue only, fishing and that took three years to sort out and the citizens still remain within the EU.

Elendon · 03/11/2016 16:54

It was made clear that this was going to be a messy divorce with the UK getting crumbs from the table. Obama said it.

hackmum · 03/11/2016 16:59

It's very interesting. I think all sorts of things could happen. Most MPs are Remainers so might be reluctant to vote Leave, particularly as many of them will represent constituencies where the majority voted Remain.

The government might insist on a three-line whip among its own MPs, of course, which would be enough to guarantee a majority - provided nobody rebels. But that is far from certain.

What seems quite likely is that there'll be a lot of argument and argy-bargy on all sides and that eventually MPs will demand that the government negotiate a soft Brexit, ie remaining in the single market.

Elendon · 03/11/2016 17:05

But Hackmum why should all that happen, when it's obvious what the outcome will be? What a disgusting waste of Parliamentary time. And money!

BoneyBackJefferson · 03/11/2016 17:07

Its funny that posters are going on about parliamentary democracy, when those in power were voted in by fewer people than those that voted for Brexit.

GingerIvy · 03/11/2016 17:07

They can demand all they like, but prior to negotiations, we won't know what is actually going to be on the table. And once negotiations begin, we'll have to deal with what actually is available, regardless of what Parliament wants us to have.

winkywinkola · 03/11/2016 17:07

Elendon, what are the terms of leaving please? You are clearly privy to information the rest of the nation is not.

Draylon · 03/11/2016 17:08

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RortyCrankle · 03/11/2016 17:08

Fine, let them put it before Parliament but I'm telling you, if we do not ultimately leave there will be a revolution in this country. Be careful what you wish for.

I hope the preppers are prepped.

happypoobum · 03/11/2016 17:09

I bloody well hope so!

MyschoolMyrules · 03/11/2016 17:09

Oh so it's campaign fear now? Charming.

Tuktuktaker · 03/11/2016 17:10

I think my definition of "terms" must be different from yours, Elendon.

Elendon · 03/11/2016 17:16

Theresa May's party was elected and she is the current leader and therefore PM. It's just it doesn't happen very often many make their decision about which MP to vote for based on the current leader of that party.

Unless you are Gordon Brown. Let's not forget history. Or do the Conservatives have a special leeway, i.e the press?

Elendon · 03/11/2016 17:17

So what are the terms then Tuk?

PassTheCremeEggs · 03/11/2016 17:18

Unless you are Gordon Brown. Let's not forget history. Or do the Conservatives have a special leeway, i.e the press?

I don't know what your question is here?

Elendon · 03/11/2016 17:19

Who is going to revolt? How will that happen? I can't see older members of the community coming out with their Zimmer Frames.

Bring on the revolt I say! The only revolt will be in voting. No one is going to throw a stone.

Elendon · 03/11/2016 17:20

Well, Pass I can't help you if you lack intellect.

PassTheCremeEggs · 03/11/2016 17:22

Wow. Thanks for that. Resorting to personal attacks is such a great argument. Good one.

Draylon · 03/11/2016 17:29

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Elendon · 03/11/2016 17:30

Pass stop being disingenuous, you knew exactly what I meant. If you are going to dish out insults then expect some in return. That's politics, darling.