To think this could mean the end of brexit?

[jdoe8]

Now MPs will be able to block it. Could this be the end of this ridiculous brexit? MPs can not vote for something that they think will not be in peoples interest and its very clear the people that voted to brexit would be the ones worse off.

JO'B is doing a fab job on LBC today and most brexiters seem to be happy that it might not go ahead as they were fooled by lies!

[ChazsBrilliantAttitude]

Draylon
The irony of the anger that the High Court thinks that this is a sovereign matter, to be debated by our democratically elected politicians is amusing.

I couldn't agree more.

Breaking News - MP's outraged that High Court thinks we live in a parliamentary democracy - SHOCK

[Lorelei76]

actually I just thought of something
people who voted Conservative - did the manifesto say "have referendum, implement result"?

so if there's a GE we will have all kinds of issues if the Cons don't abide by that..?

My sister always said it was impossible that Corbyn would ever be in charge - this is exactly the kind of thing I was imagining when I said he might be.

[DiegeticMuch]

I'm a remoaner (as they say) but I think that a Brexit block would open the door to a UKIP surge. There would be very significant discontent and I could see frustrations being taken out on EU folks who live here as well as on Cons and Lab MPs in the next election. It's risky.

[Musicinthe00ssucks]

Be very careful about wishing for a General Election.

Many see Corbyn as unelectable. Many are already disillusioned with May and I fear that their votes would sway towards UKIP.

[Lorelei76]

Music, I'm not wishing for one! I just think it's a possibility.

[ClaudiaApfelstrudel]

delighted with todays verdict, but it's just the beginning.

As much as I love listening to JO'B, he does have a tendancy to talk over and take out of context what the callers are saying. He doesn't listen to them.

But he's great yeah

[Elendon]

I like the idea of an election because it probably will bring to the UK Parliament a European style of government, i.e. no overall control. Which would be delightfully ironic.

[akkakk]

Do remainers realise that if we were to backtrack now and decide not to Brext we will have totally screwed up our relationship with Europe - we would be considered very weak and would have the EU walking all over us - we would have no choice but to lose the pound and go into the Euro and fiscal unity overseen by the EU - it would basically trigger the EU super-state... There is no way that the EU would allow the UK to not Brexit, yet remain in the same place of authority as before (an authority partly engendered by having the threat of leaving!)

What-ever your views it would be a very very foolish move

[Elendon]

Fluffy Of course the ridiculous decision by Merkel to invite millions of unknown foreign nationals to join her country and then try to dictate to UK that we had to take "our fair share" didn't go down well either

That would be refugees, i.e.unknown foreign nationals from Syria. Canada took more in than the UK, were they told to do so by Merkel? Take your Xenophobia elsewhere please and stop peddling lies.

[PassTheCremeEggs]

we would have no choice but to lose the pound and go into the Euro and fiscal unity overseen by the EU

Where's the evidence for this?

[pipsqueak25]

this is so pathetic, let's vote again and if it goes to remain the brexit lot are angry, learn to live with it people it's happening. flame me - i don't give a shit

[Elendon]

akkakk the UK was screwed the minute it was realised it voted to leave. The EU was going to get medieval on our ass if the UK voted out. That was sung from the rooftops beforehand, were you not listening?

[BarbarianMum]

Um, do you understand how they EU works? How decisions are made? What powers are these it is suddenly going to call into play to make us lose the pound or join a European superstate? Where did they come from?

[Lorelei76]

I can see akk's point. Surely if we don't leave now the EU will use it as a chance to put issues on the table and vote on them, to make the UK do things like join the euro? yes they have to table it and vote on it but surely that has to be a possibility, that they would wish to try that?

[throwingpebbles]

The High court has decided that the government must get parliamentary sanction before acting in such a way as to affect the rights of the British people. Anyone who thinks that's undemocratic needs to buy a fucking dictionary. And a brain.

well put!

[badtime]

TBH, I think the best outcome might be a soft Brexit.

Due to the wording of the question, if we formally left the EU but kept free movement and the single market, this would still be in accordance with the referendum.

Nobody knows how Leaver votes broke down - if just 2% were hoping for a Norwegian-style situation, this would mean that pro-hard Brexit voters would be outnumbered by people who didn't want hard Brexit.

[gillybeanz]

I thought it was a done deal and we had to leave EU, is that not the case?
I didn't think we got to vote again, I'm confused now.

[BarbarianMum]

As an existing member of the EU we cannot be forced to join the Euro by majority vote. If we left and then wanted to rejoin - that would be when the conditions of our membership could be renegotiated.

[badtime]

gilly, the referendum was not legally binding, and the court today upheld the view that Parliament has to make the decision about whether/how/when to leave the EU. The government have appealed, because they want to make all the decisions themselves about what form Brexit will take.

It doesn't mean anything yet, as the government have appealed and we have to wait for the decision of the Supreme Court.

[gillybeanz]

So, if we have a GE as some people are saying and the fact that May wasn't voted in could mean that UKIP get in power.
Nobody will vote labour anymore and as much as I like Green, they won't gain enough support.
Lib Dems we hardly hear from and sort of count themselves out.
It could be Cons or UKIP

[Mishaps]

It is a chicken and egg situation. Leaving aside the rights and wrongs of parliament having a say in this, they will be voting in a vacuum. The EU is refusing to negotiate terms until article 50 has been triggered; and there is no point in parliament voting if they do not know what the terms are.

[Hawaiiisalongwayaway]

Much as I am completely horrified by all this I have to admit to finding it utterly fascinating at the same time. How will history report what is happening now and what the eventual outcome might be?

[Elendon]

Of course Parliament knows what the terms are. It was made very clear what the terms would be on leaving previous to the referendum.

[Elendon]

But Parliament should get to vote on the terms. The terms of leaving should not be left to Royal Prerogative because that is undemocratic.

Jarndyce and Jarndyce beckons.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarndyce_and_Jarndyce

[Tuktuktaker]

Elendon, I'd love to know what the terms are, please?