To think this could mean the end of brexit?

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Now MPs will be able to block it. Could this be the end of this ridiculous brexit? MPs can not vote for something that they think will not be in peoples interest and its very clear the people that voted to brexit would be the ones worse off.

JO'B is doing a fab job on LBC today and most brexiters seem to be happy that it might not go ahead as they were fooled by lies!

Ah but the vote was done by local authority boundaries not by MPs constituencies, which I've read may have produced a different outcome.

I don't think will change anything.

I was and am a remainer, I think we've done a huge amount of damage to our country. There will be price hikes, they will be redundancies (and there are now), but the longer this drags on, the worse it will get.

Economy hates uncertainty, we need to pull the plaster off and get on with it.

What's happening now is political, we need to focus on the economy.

I don't know any leave voters who regret it. Why would they. Why do remainers think their opinion counts more than everyone else's.

joan did you realise that one of the people who brought the case voted Brexit?

This isn't about stopping Brexit. It's about stopping the terms of Brexit being decided by a handful people. Because we live in a democracy not a dictatorship.

Draylon - your little pencil 😂 I am borrowing that yes I agree with you. I watched Daily Hate wielding pensioners draped in union flags walk into the polling booth, as I wondered in to vote Remain. They where little Englanders, it's cost my my Eastern European cleaner and Polish gardener, which beyond doing a great service where amazing people and had become friends. They left after torrents of abuse unleashed after Brexit, this is only the beginning of the horrors to come should Brexit continue.

More of us voted to leave than remain - despite lies from government and others in support of EU. Do you remember George Osborne saying the sky would fall on our heads? We will leave EU and restart full unencumbered trade links with the rest of the world. We will prosper. Do not believe the remoaners.

Why do people always assume brexiters didn't know what they were voting for?

Probably because otherwise it means they voted for something that will leave them worse off and Britain less influential and it seems hard to understand why anyone why anyone would do that unless they genuinely didn't understand the issues at stake.

Minaktinga. Yes I know this was the case and if you read the article attached below it also explains that if counting had been done using consituencies we would have had 401 consituencies out of 632 voting for Brexit, equating to 63% of the country www.express.co.uk/news/uk/728805/If-MPs-voted-on-Brexit-the-same-as-their-constituents-Article-50-WOULD-be-triggered

Mission yes I did and I am all for democracy I voted out and would do so again If Parliament ignores our vote then I will be very angry and upset that they are not doing their constitutional duty and respecting the wishes of the people I know it is about the terms, but I think the Remainers are trying to overturn the decision any way they can If the ruling stands I am happy to abide by it

We will leave EU and restart full unencumbered trade links with the rest of the world. We will prosper. Do not believe the remoaners.

God, is that you?

falange your user name is an interesting choice.
Joan do you use any other sources apart from that rag?

Now Tippy.. don't be mean.

I assume leavers didn't know what they were voting for because it's widely acknowledged that no one knows (or will know for years) or what brexit involves. Anyone making glib predictions sounds uneducated, complacent and a bit of a twit really.

Proper experts are quite happy to agree there are too many unknowns for straightforward optimism. Slightly more rationale for serious trepidation.

Can I give some posters a few of these?
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It would make reading your posts a little easier.

Yes, a few ,,,,,,,,,,, and ........ could potentially prevent a death by asphyxiation.

Do you think it's at all possible that the MPs might debate and call for a second referendum, to confirm once and for all what Britain wants? (she says hopefully).

The difficulty that many, many Leavers seem to have with working out what actually happened yesterday (and how it promotes sovereignty of our parliament rather than being an attack on brexit) makes me further conclude that reasoning skills and intellectual competence must be weighted towards the Remain portion of the electorate, if they're anywhere, that is.

Reading the Leave press today, the arguments are shamelessly manipulative rather than informative. My DSis is a senior journalist in the political arena and is disgusted.

If the press think their sympathetic readership are gullible and easy to play (they clearly do), how are Remainers supposed to trust the ' logic ' and respect the competency of those holding these views?

I'm sorry to be obnoxious and goady but it feels like the elephant in the room. Leave seems to run on emotional truculence, distrust of authority and not much else. I do realise there are geniuses and twats on both sides and a hundred reasons to vote either way...doesn't mean there aren't general trends.

slender yes! Absolutely agree, I find the front pages of those 4 papers today simply repugnant and dangerous. "The will of the people", the oldest trick in the book, and the "people" repeat their learned mantra ad nauseam. We all are the people, and the ruling yesterday was democracy in action working for the people. Every time I hear "respect the will of the people/ trigger Art 50 now/cosmopolitan elite" I despair. Some leave voters were repeating just that on Newsnight earlier, how parliament should just "get on with it" and not interfere with the will of the people. When asked how exactly they should proceed they said get on with the negotiations, and then you could see them getting confused: to negotiate one needs a set of options, also who decides what those are? They cannot answer that!

God I hope so, Brexit was a stupid idea peddled by idiots. I am a Remainer, after all this recent development is all about democracy and sovereignty

Bloody Hell! You have a long way to fall from that pedestal your are precariously balancing on.

There's an MP on BBC news now. Another was on yesterday. Both were remainers. Both say if they have to vote will vote to trigger article 50 because that is what the public voted. So I think a lot of MPs will do the same.

that is what the public voted

This oft-parroted line about "The People", frequently by people who really ought to know better, really pisses me off.

When it suits Leavers and their supporters, an alien observer could believe that either (a) all 65 million citizens voted emphatically to Leave, or (b) that 17.4 million people (as we keep being told) are the only voices who matter (or even exist, the other 47.6 million of us apparently being chopped liver) and who speak with one unified voice on the how and what of Brexit.

Then suddenly when it suits the narrative, Remainers are permitted to pop into existence when required - to be blamed for the fall of the £ (although simultaneously we are told this is a good thing for our exports - which we have lots of, and which apparently use neither imported fuel not raw materials), for Talking Down the economy (although simultaneously we are told there are no negative effects here at all), for not Getting On With It (whatever It is), for Being Metropolitan Liberal Elite, for being Expert (unless we are the swathes of skilled lawyers, negotiators and administrators who will have to be paid to carry out Brexit), for Being Traitors and even for the poor performance of any pro-Brexit companies due to our incredible boycotting powers.

Then suddenly everyone remembers that there are almost as many Remainers as Leavers therefore we can have these overwhelming effects (but only on any particular subset of events which are deemed to be of importance at a particular time)

Jaws 5 my user name was lifted from the much loved American comedy programme Friends. It was a word to describe various things.

Falange, Aside from thinking she's likely got a bit mixed up with FLANGE, it's a bit rich coming from someone called jaw SS

If you're thinking about bones, they are phalanges - so not actually ironic at all.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falange_Española_de_las_JONS

"FE de las JONS... or simply called the Falange, was a Fascist and National Syndicalist political party founded in Spain by José Antonio Primo de Rivera in 1933."

Now that's interesting...