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'The Brexit Arms' is now open. Friendly cosy pub with log fire for leavers & remainers to chat & ponder life, the universe, & Brexit.

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surferjet · 30/10/2016 16:43

You are all most welcome Wine

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WinchesterWoman · 03/11/2016 07:52

Where's the evidence for a natural brexit effect I asked for it before

As for the rest your post is mad quite mad

TheElementsSong · 03/11/2016 07:56

Where's the evidence for a natural brexit effect I asked for it before

Where's your evidence that it's not?

As for the rest of your post, well aren't you a charming individual.

Bearbehind · 03/11/2016 08:02

ww were your posts at 7.48, and 7.49 aimed at me? Did you get all worried that the one at 7.45 was just a simple answer rather than your usual goady retort?

Bearbehind · 03/11/2016 08:05

ww cost of living is going up.

You can clearly afford to take it in your stride and think you're being incredible benevolent by spending to keep small businesses going but not everyone has that luxury.

People who are concerned about the potential affects of Brexit are going to be cutting back - that's the natural effect.

Kaija · 03/11/2016 08:56

Letter from supplier to pub. Brexit Arms might want to take note:

'The Brexit Arms' is now open. Friendly cosy pub with log fire for leavers & remainers to chat & ponder life, the universe, & Brexit.
BoredofBrexit · 03/11/2016 09:00

What I just do not get is that Radical Remainists have total utter blind faith in the EU mothership. That the eurozone is not going to implode. That many European countries may well explode. Whatever we are seeing now in U.K. are nowhere near the aftershocks that are about to be felt in Europe (in my reasoned opinion based on no fucking evidence at all before the RR piles in). Oh apart from this: I did a Pool Poll while in UAE. Of all the guests, NO-ONE identified as European. Funny that. So, global nationalists unite?Confused

BoredofBrexit · 03/11/2016 09:06

I did think there might be one person here that did though, given smallfox is loadedWink

BertrandRussell · 03/11/2016 09:06

"What I just do not get is that Radical Remainists have total utter blind faith in the EU mothership"

Not sure what a Radical Remainist is- do you mean a person who voted to remain in the EC? If so, I don't know any who have "blind faith" in anything.

Bearbehind · 03/11/2016 09:07

bored, you don't 'get' it because it's not true.

I don't know a single Remainer who thought the EU was perfect but they thought

a) it was better to try and change from within and

b) leaving the EU with absolutely no idea of how that will play out was not a sensible option

The overriding sentiment from Leavers on here has always been, 'yay we won', but you've no idea what 'winning' will actually mean.

Bearbehind · 03/11/2016 09:14

I did a Pool Poll while in UAE

PMSL at this, so another person who's not exactly on the breadline then?

MangoMoon · 03/11/2016 09:30

*I don't know a single Remainer who thought the EU was perfect but they thought

a) it was better to try and change from within and

b) leaving the EU with absolutely no idea of how that will play out was not a sensible option*

The tipping point between voting leave over remain was (a):

Whilst a remain voter thought it 'better to try & change from within', a leave voter's view was that trying to change from within appeared increasingly futile - with 27 other countries required to be in agreement for any change to happen.
Cameron basically being told to trot off back home like a good boy by Juncker weeks before the ref was the final nail in their belief that 'change from within' was in any way achievable.

Whilst remain voters were willing to keep at it, leave voters thought it more prudent to cut & run at that point.
To quote Kenny Rogers:

"You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
And know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done

Every gambler knows
That the secret to survivin'
Is knowin' what to throw away
And knowin' what to keep
'Cause every hand's a winner
And every hand's a loser
And the best that you can hope for is to die
in your sleep"

BoredofBrexit · 03/11/2016 09:36

BearB...yep, pouf goes another stereotype...not old, not northern, not disaffected, not a bungalow owner.....pass me a pina colada bartender!

Bearbehind · 03/11/2016 09:37

mango Cameron's didn't get told to trot off, he got more concessions than any other country has.

As for the Kenny Rogers quote-

and the best you can hope for is to die in your sleep

Really Hmm

surferjet · 03/11/2016 09:37

Remain voters are more disillusioned than levers, 'change from within' 😂😂😂😂

Yeah right.

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Bearbehind · 03/11/2016 09:38

No bored, you absolutely are the stereotypical 'I'm alright Jack' leave voter.

Bearbehind · 03/11/2016 09:42

Ok surfer if we're so disillusioned, why is it you've no clue how we'll change anything from the outside either?

If there had been a clear vision of what life outside the EU would be like there might have been a more overwhelming majority to Leave- you and I might even have been on the same side.

Change for changes sake is pointless and dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.

surferjet · 03/11/2016 10:06

It is a risk I agree, but a risk we had to take in my opinion. We have no idea what the EU will be like in 20 years time so you weren't voting for anything safe & secure.
The bottom line is the guardianistas were beaten by Nigel Farage & they just can't handle it - they'll do everything they can to stop Brexit & put normal, ordinary people back in their place.

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Kaija · 03/11/2016 10:11

You think 16 million people are "Guardianistas". Just imagine.

BertrandRussell · 03/11/2016 10:13

Surfe jet- you have seen this, haven't you?

'The Brexit Arms' is now open. Friendly cosy pub with log fire for leavers & remainers to chat & ponder life, the universe, & Brexit.
StorminaBcup · 03/11/2016 10:14

It's not over yet! PM can't trigger article 50 without commons vote

BoredofBrexit · 03/11/2016 10:15

Wrong Again BB, your crystal ball seems to have clouded over.....again.....must be all the hot air you spout. I'd say folk like you wanted to preserve your lives, where you feel all European as you order your espressos in your non-tax-paying chains.

Saw the signs, calculated the risk, allowed for the short term hit and took a chance. Like many others I am prepared to take the pain, for the chance of a better life. Like millions before me, that's how the world works for winners.

Bearbehind · 03/11/2016 10:17

The thing is though bored you can afford to take the pain, many can't. How does that sit with your conscience?

Cxc78 · 03/11/2016 10:18

I can think of a different word starting with w...

StorminaBcup · 03/11/2016 10:19

I'll ask the question again for all of you leavers (think I've asked the question way back on page 1 but it's been ignored), can you list what you want your EU free Britain to look like?

MangoMoon · 03/11/2016 10:19

You keep posting that Bertrand & im obviously missing your point.

18,694,470 can't vote, therefore are removed from the outcome.

12,949,258 didn't vote, therefore were presumably indifferent & happy to go with whatever the eventual outcome was.

The remainder is what we already know - more voters wanted to leave than wanted to remain.

What is the big reveal that I am overlooking??

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