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I don't see the natural brexit effect there marinate?
In answer to your question, it's because vindictive glee is unttractive in a character, but that doesn't bother you and I'm not the personality police

Thanks WW. To be honest I'm pinning all of my hopes on the article 50 ruling tomorrow but we shall see!

Boycotting business because of their brexit stance

(1) As I said above, people choose to spend their money wherever they choose, and for whatever reasons they choose. There is nothing to stop Brexiters, in their greater numbers, pouring their own funds in to support pro-Brexit businesses which should therefore flourish.

(2) Surely we want all businesses to thrive going forward, unless we're advocating some sort of "enemy of the people" purge of dissident businesses? Therefore, we could take the slightly more cheerful view that perhaps all those ghastly Remoaners who are not spending money at Wetherspoons might instead be partaking at other businesses, which would therefore be enjoying extra custom - could we agree that this too would count as a success?

(3) Conversely, if people faced with a period of great uncertainty are declining to spend their money at all, we are not, I hope, proposing that they be excoriated as unpatriotic traitors against the great project?

I mean, from the way this discussion is going, it appears to me that the only "correct" (grown-up, non-vindictive, patriotic) course of action some posters would accept is to compel the populace to spend their savings and specifically at pro-Brexit businesses.

Remoaners who are not spending money at Wetherspoons might instead be partaking at other businesses, which would therefore be enjoying extra custom

Good point! Perhaps I've made a clumsy point that personally, I wouldn't change my spending habits just because a company I buy from voted out. But I agree, that's my prerogative.

Winging Woman - Vindictive glee? I thought that was firm Brexiteer territory? "You've lost, get over it" and all that...

Anyway it's not about being vindictive - as I said above - what I want is everyone to get a little taste of things to come so that maybe we can change our mind before we commit the most stupid act in recent British history.

E'll elements point one I don't really get. Point two is a good and fair point and I agree. Point three, it depends if they are genuinely worried or if they arent spending for sour grapes reason. Otherwise I understand point three and why people are worried and cautious. It's one of the reasons were spending now to make up for it! We're having a big build and I'm trying to help small businesses that high end card shop on the corner is costing me a fortune

I still didn't see as natural brexit effect in the teeth err spoon figures

Tim Martin wants brexit.
Tim Martin wants tariff free transactions with his EU suppliers.
I wonder what the iss... Oh wait!
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One more: I thought your end bit didn't follow. It stands alone but it's not a conclusion or finding of the other three poitns

I don't think you know what vindictive glee is then maybe

I don't think the stance of the business should have anything to do with it. I'm not going to go out and buy a Dyson. I just want to make sure thatuk workers will be ok so I'm spending right now.

I mean I'm not being funny but I haven't been to wetherspoons either

Maybe I should go to wetherspoons but it seems a high personal price to pay

WW point one is fairly self explanatory I would have thought - if Brexiters feel it is so important to support pro-Brexit companies, they can choose to spend their money there.

My concluding statement is an extrapolation of many of the posts on this thread including,ironically, yours - in the very same post you generously allow people to avoid spending "if they are genuinely worried" but not "for sour grapes reason."

It doesn't matter why a private individual is or isn't spending wherever or on whatever they want. It is not for you, or chocolate or me or Tim Martin do decide on a list of "acceptable" or "unacceptable" reasons for what a person does with their money.

But what's the point of supporting for or against companies.

Yes I can say that if a group deliberately doesn't spend to cause economic damage that's unacceptable (to me obvs) why not?

How are you proposing to identify why somebody isn't spending?

And what would you do with the information anyway, apart from moan on a talkboard about it?

I'm not proposing it

Another picture for the pin board:

Isn't the bottom line more simple than people choosing not to support a business that is pro-Brexit ?

Wetherspoons is not exactly a high class establishment therefore it follows it is frequented by relatively less well off people and those people are going to be more affected by the rise in living costs than wealthier people who probably wouldn't have set foot on Wetherspoons sticky carpets in the first place.

That's possible of course but the evidence points otherwise

Morning all

Big day today re: Brexit.

Dear boy

That special kind of arrogance - will it prevail?

I'm not proposing it

Ah, ok. You're just going to infer malign purpose (vindictive glee, sour grapes, childish tantrums and so on) to a group of people based on no evidence, then blame them for all the economic, social and political ills that might befall the country, and make pointed implications about how the assets accrued by these nefariously unpatriotic people might be better distributed amongst more deserving national and business causes.

frequented by relatively less well off people and those people are going to be more affected by the rise in living costs

Yes Bear that is a more likely explanation. If you accept the idea that there is a rise in living costs or any economic effects, of course.