Brexit- still gutted by result

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Now on holiday in France. Handing over our EU passports was bad😰

Driving through France. Lots of the French Tricolour flag being flown alongside EU flag. That made me feel gutted too.

I just don't seem to be able to rally about it😟. I feel very keenly that we have lost that sense of unity and support.

Snivelling in a French gite atm☹️

Brexit + Trump = Black Death.

Goodness. Oh well, at least there's spare money for the NHS

Unfortunately I think people do live in a bubble. One which cost Cameron his Premiership (and serves him right because he should have known better). One which Farage shamelessly exploited - and is now nowhere to be seen, but that maybe because his party gave him the push, despite what he says.

I doubt there'll be an NHS left to fund in the future...

Because of the nasty Tories, or nasty Brexit?

Unfortunately I think people do live in a bubble

Exactly.

The irony of starting a thread saying that you're:
'Sat in a gite, feeling gutted about leaving the EU'
when a lot of people, (who more than likely voted to leave the EU, and you have to wonder why) will never have a hope in hell of having a holiday in this country, never mind abroad, in a bloody Gite.

I don't understand the mentality of people who have totall disregard and lack of compassion for the poor in their own country,.

i suppose its less glamorous, or something

Because by and large it's misplaced compassion.

They like to feel they are supportive towards the poor as long as the poor are going to stay poor. If the poor start getting ideas beyond their station and work and earn a decent living, then they won't be poor. Some would far rather have them as helpless victims dependent on welfare and nodding feebly and agreeing with what we tell them. From our French gites

It's ok op. You can still holiday in a gite after Brexit.

S'all YOUR fault, brexit

Show some compassion. Op is in a gite you know

Neither really. NHS is screwed whichever party is in power- there is too much incentive for it to be privatised but no one really is going to openly admit it. Brexit may have speeded it up a bit.

It's ok op. You can still holiday in a gite after Brexit_
Brexit wont affect your lifestle in the slightest

It's a shame that many of the poor - who in reality will of course not be a homogenous mass- seem to have turned on the one group less advantaged than themselves in all this.

OP, I think it is ok to mourn for the liberal, accepting and tolerant society we thought we lived in.

Am I the only phillistine who had to google 'gite'?
I can only afford Haven (in the Sun deal)

Should that be philistine

Haven Holidays

Well according to the article you linked to:

The liberal intellectuals are always in a minority. The people who see that open societies, being nice to other people, not being racist, not fighting wars, is a better way to live, they generally end up losing these fights

the 'liberal intellectual' would presumably fight for the NHS.

But that's not really well supported by history, is it? Historically, we've become nicer, not crueller. Cruel and unusual punishment was banned, in this country at any rate, in the late eighteenth century, the Victorian times saw welfare, laws to protect children and even animals. Post world war 1, women could vote, post world war 2, the NHS was established, the death penalty abolished, homosexuality slowly became socially acceptable. I don't need to go on. If the above was correct, and the strongest 'nasty people' survived, we would become more violent and less tolerant. We don't. You might not like everything that happens - nor do I - but to claim its some form of natural order because of nwasty mwean society is, if I may be direct, horse shit.

There were arguments for staying in the EU and arguments for leaving it. A vote to remain was not a vote stating 'I love and adore everything about the EU' any more than 'leave' equated to 'I hate everything about the EU.'

Most of us found a balance and took it from there. A few die-hards on both sides went for a more extreme reaction.

I'm holidaying in the UK next week. Fingers crossed for some sunshine for all of us!

I know 'gite' from my French GCSE days - I have lived in France but have never stayed in one.

We did, as kids.

There's a huge right wing movement in France at the moment, actually. I wonder if op feels sad about that, too.

Wow. People have really given OP a kicking. How very dare she go on holiday to a gite? Obviously that very act in itself shows how utterly out of touch with the common man she is.
WTF is wrong with people? I still feel very sad about Brexit. It's perfectly legitimate to feel like that.

...when a lot of people, (who more than likely voted to leave the EU, and you have to wonder why) will never have a hope in hell of having a holiday in this country, never mind abroad, in a bloody Gite. What do you want fuckindosomething? A race to the bottom?
FWIW, the Brexiters around my way seem to mostly live in large semi-detached houses with trim lawns and begonia borders and 'independence day' posters in their windows, but carry on with your blinkered view of the 'average' leave/remain voter (impoverished northerner/person who holidays in a gite...) The leave voters around this way probably own the bloody gite that OP is renting for her holiday.

It's not a kicking. It's a ribbing She can holiday where she wants to, but fuckindo had an extremely salient point.

It's a bit like the posts hand wringing that Jonty and Jemima now can't study European law in Madrid, from the same people who didn't give a shit when Jayden and Jenna-Lee's dad factory closed down in the north east. Crying and distress because Hugo and Harriet's mum has had to sell their home for less than she bought it, but Harrison and Hayleigh's mum will never get a house, as they've rocketed up in value since Harrison was born beyond all control.

It's absolutely fine to identify with the people closest to you, but to try to claim this gives you any sort of moral superiority is what gets my goat.

The gite we stayed in had goats, and chickens.

I'm with you OP.

And for many, it is sad.

And because it is a bit more significant than big brother, some will feel sad for quite some time.

And we're only in post referendum land.

^Wow. People have really given OP a kicking. How very dare she go on holiday to a gite? Obviously that very act in itself shows how utterly out of touch with the common man she is.
WTF is wrong with people? I still feel very sad about Brexit. It's perfectly legitimate to feel like that^

There's a big difference between 'feeling a bit sad about Brexit' and 'feeling a bit sad about Brexit whilst having a fantastic holiday in a French 'gite'
and the reality of the lives of most of the voters who voted Leave.
Most people who voted leave haven't a hope of hell of having a decent holiday in 'this' country, never mind in a fucking french giet or whatever it's called.
Yes, some of their votes may have been done for the wrong reasons. But the fact remains, people are in our own country are living/having shit lives and , it's a bit galling that there are people around who feel more compassion for their own well being and the plight of people in other countries, when they should be feeling a bit of compassion for people in their own country.
But of course, that's not a very PC 'I holiday in ag ite' point of view.

''I can afford to holiday in a gite' point of view.

Well, continue to 'feel sad' from your moral and no doubt financial high ground, in your 'gite'.
Meanwhile, back in the real world., .....

OP's has your gite got a pool.

It's a gite, not a fucking super-yacht. Don't understand why the OP's getting such a kicking for having the audacity to be on a self-catering holiday to a neighbouring country.

Also, I thought 'no-one listened to them so the poor people voted leave' was now understood to be a massive over-simplification. I mean, no-one really believes poor people voted leave because they can't afford a holiday in France FGS...