Brexit- still gutted by result

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Now on holiday in France. Handing over our EU passports was bad😰

Driving through France. Lots of the French Tricolour flag being flown alongside EU flag. That made me feel gutted too.

I just don't seem to be able to rally about it😟. I feel very keenly that we have lost that sense of unity and support.

Snivelling in a French gite atm☹️

Pool? wow living the highlife

Enjoy your pool.
Hope you have a fantastic., well earned, deserved holiday.

After all, it's what we ALL human beings deserve. Right?

It's not a kicking.

It's a sign of being from the middle class. The middle (and upper) class were the ones who disproportionately benefited from being members of the European Union.

no one really believes poor people voted leave because they can't afford a holiday in france

No. Poor people voted leave because their rights as workers have been taken over by endless agencies and zero hour contracts, making holidays difficult. This has happened because of an influx of constant and cheap labour from abroad.

Poor people voted leave because house prices rocketed beyond their control and in any case, permanent jobs with contracts and salaries became something for the middle classes. Poor people therefore were reliant on social housing, except there's endless competition for this, so they had to resort to private renting. Therefore, they need a months deposit plus agency fees. Holidays are difficult with this in mind.

It's a gite, not a fucking super-yacht.
Quite. OP's hardly in the Cayman Islands while nanny takes care of the kids.

No.

The Cayman Islands while nanny takes care of the kids would be UPPER class.

A gite in France, with plentiful wine in the evenings, is middle class, as confirmed by OPs profession. She benefits from being in the European Union. Nowt wrong with that. But it's for her own interests and it's being painted as being out of social concern!

Don't understand why the OP's getting such a kicking for having the audacity to be on a self-catering holiday to a neighbouring country.

Wake up and smell the fucking coffee.
Most people in the UK can't afford a holiday.
Self catering or not.

It's all very well banging on about a 'well deserved' holiday.
A lot of people in the UK ar now in a position where they don't have the oportunities to progress to the stage where they have 'a 'career' and the path to well-deserved holidays in gites
Most of the time it's all they can manage to survive week to week.

This has happened because of an influx of constant and cheap labour from abroad.
I think it happened because our own home-grown government has allowed companies to get away with these contracts. It was Iain Duncan-Smith who claimed that staff 'liked the flexibility' of zero hours contracts. But let's blame the EU, eh?

Most people in the UK can't afford a holiday.

worth repeating.
Seriously.

Wake up and smell the fucking coffee.
Most people in the UK can't afford a holiday.

I can't afford a holiday either, but I'm not such a shit that I'd want to dish out a metaphorical kicking to someone who's self-catering just across the channel. fuckindosomething - why not refocus your anger onto the people who don't pay their taxes in this country or the successive UK governments that have stood by and watched inequality grow, instead of aggressively berating someone who works in a school?

No, we're not 'blaming the EU' :)

We're pointing out that some of the by products of being in the EU disproportionately impacted on those at the lower end of the social scale.

We're pointing out that some of the by products of being in the EU disproportionately impacted on those at the lower end of the social scale.

Well, I look forward to the marvellous post-Brexit Utopia where we will all be equal.

Under Brexit the poor will get poorer. There will be no land of milk and honey despite the pre referendum hype by Johnson and Farage.

Again, that's not what is being claimed:

'I want to stay in the EU because it benefits me' - fine, cool, grand.

'I want to stay in the EU because it benefits me I'm a GOOD person and I'm SO upset we aren't staying I'm sitting in my gite CRYING' - not so fine!

Well if the OP speaks for the middle class, can I speak for the working class and say that we're fucked? We're fucked by austerity brought on by the British government however, not the EU.

The Cayman Islands while nanny takes care of the kids would be UPPER class

Seriously?

We're pointing out that some of the by products of being in the EU disproportionately impacted on those at the lower end of the social scale.

What like the millions in EU funding some of the UK's poorest areas received, proving jobs and infrastructure?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/countrys-most-deprived-areas-could-8350432

In my opinion uk government, policy and (lack of ) investment since the thatcher years, has been the primary reason many people can't afford a holiday and many regions outside the south east offer few opportunities. More recently bailing out the banks who were ultimately responsible for the 2008 recession - and the budget cuts needed after that are Way more significant that the less than one per cent reduction in wages estimated to be the result of EU immigration. IF ONLY all inequalities were because of Europe. UK government sadly has had a far, far larger role.

Cuboid and carol, thanks for your answers.

No; you can't 'speak for the working class' any more than the OP is speaking for the middle class You can give your view!

Exactly ghost, noname

Thanks for your answers because I agree with them

By the way - agency Britain was a 'cheers, Tony!' not 'cheers, Dave!' moment.

fuckindosomething

I'm curious. How often have you voted in all elections since you were of an age to? Do you get involved with campaigning for a political party or go knocking on doors to drum up support for your party?

France isn't a uniformly pro-EU society itself. Perhaps while you're over there you could talk to the French half of my family, who are all desperate for their own referendum, and are full of admiration that the UK is actually leaving.

The sense of European unity you talk about has only ever existed among well-educated elites who are in a position to take advantage of the mobility and opportunities the EU offered. And who will still have the educational, financial and social capital to be able to visit and work in Europe after the UK leaves.

willow did you study irony at your secondary modern? We did at ours.

We're pointing out that some of the by products of being in the EU disproportionately impacted on those at the lower end of the social scale.

so how come Scotland voted to remain?

we're hardly rolling in it up here

I can't for the life of me work out that insult! Are you trying to imply that I'm old, thick, or both?! At any rate, the grammar school system had been and gone by the time I went to school in the mid 1990s and I learned nothing of any real importance at school.