Andrea Leadsom - please stand for leadership!

[Millyonthefloss2]

Anyone agree?

I came onto this thread to say the same thing Alisvolatpropiis.

Everything else has crashed and burned so far. Let's issue Article 50, crash our economy to smithereens and turn on each other!

claig

UKIP are fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists. That's actually quite a generous statement. And I base that on their own statements and performance, not "spin".

It is surprising that one of teh best politicians in this whole campaign, prepared to tell teh truth, prepared to attack his party etc and prepared to reveal to the public how the game really works, is Iain Duncan Smith, who is also backing Andrea Leadsom.

Duncan Smith has been amazing and it is well worth watching every interview he has done to hear him reveal truths.

Today on Channel 4 News, the media tried the usual trick of trying to harm Andrea Leadsom by linking her to UKIP, which is the Establishment's bete noire. But Duncan Smith was having none of it and categorically said there had been no funding from Banks and when the media kept trying to bang the same drum, he said "you know the game" which indicated to the public how the tricks are done.

but its a bit rich to protest against democracy though!

I have a lot of time for IDS. I don';t particularly like him as a person and I think he's fairly sexist and not right for leader (and nor is Leadsom and May is best) but IDS is certainly a good man.

Having a leader who is an expert in the EU, as well as the economy, leadership roles, and seems like a compassionate warm and sensible lady seems good to me. She oozes positive about our new place in the world and I think she is breath of fresh air.

Everything else has crashed and burned so far. Let's issue Article 50, crash our economy to smithereens and turn on each other!

Sadly the conclusion I'm coming to. Bring it on, Andrea.

Boris has come out in support of Leadsom too.

'but its a bit rich to protest against democracy though!'

Absolutely, but big business lobbyists never really cared about democracy and there are a lot of powerful people who would like nothing better than to overturn "the will of the people" and they need the media and the type of people who shout "scumbag" at Boris to help them.

claig

No, it indicates that IDS thinks this is all a game. As do they all, I suspect. Except where their legacies are concerned.

IDS of bedroom tax fame is one of our best politicians? I don't think so.

Vri

No it isn't a "bit rich", it is the entire point of a democracy. That people don't have to put up and shut up regarding issues they disagree with/feel passionately about.

No but at some point, they need to remember there was a vote and they lost.

Thanks for the links Milly and Ali

IDS is a good man? Really? Promoting and being responsible for the most invasive swingeing cuts in public provision for the neediest in our society, and he is a good man? I think your calibration of what constitutes being 'good' needs a fair amount of work

ok, experience of leading...

David Cameron has experience of leading the party and the country, but he doesn't want the job any more.
No other candidate has actual experience of leading anything, so unless Tony Blair or John Major fancy another go, we're going to be led by someone who has no previous experience of being the leader of the country.

'No, it indicates that IDS thinks this is all a game'

No, IDS has shown amazing courage to attack his own side, blast Cameron and Osborne for their scare tactics. IDS never did this ever before in politics, he was aparty man who span the line they are all told to spin, but on this issue, which he is passionate about, he revealed his true courage in challenging the spin and lies of the Establishment, the "independent" experts and all the rest who were roped in to help Cameron's team.

the entire point of democracy is to exist so that people can protest about democracy??

Roses

It isn't a game, nobody bet on the horses, people aren't being "sore losers". Voicing concern, protesting about it even, is being treated as some sort of affront to Leave voters, who voted and got the result they wanted.

There will be more protests in the future. About various issues during the period of negotiation which will follow article 50 being invoked.

No Vri, freedom of speech is an underlying principle of democracy.

So can someone tell me please?

What DO the frontal lobes of babies have to do with running the country?

Good I look forward to the protests but at some point, there needs to be acceptance that Leave won, the majority of people who voted, won.

Its as simple as that, and we all need to move on.

I read that too, Red.

V strange.

Roses

I don't think that anybody is in doubt that we will leave the EU. Being deeply concerned about what that means in practice, given the political elite themselves don't seem at all sure, seems fairly logical.

I think however, you are a little deluded if you think people will "move on" in less than a fortnight, given the uncertain status of EU nationals here and British nationals on the continent, amongst other immediate issues.

AL did not come off very well in this evening’s Tory leadership hustings, according to freshly filed reports.

The Sun’s Harry Cole writes that she “crashed and burned with a rambling performance” and quotes one MP as saying: “She was rambling, ended up talking about the frontal cortex of a baby’s brain.”

Source: The Guardian