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Andrea Leadsom - please stand for leadership!

684 replies

Millyonthefloss2 · 29/06/2016 10:46

Anyone agree?

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Sonnet · 11/07/2016 01:32

Leadsome is just not to be trusted!
As MP for South Northamptonshire' she was loud and proud to protest about wind farms (south Northants is the wind farm capital of the U.K.) she attended many local rural village protests until she was made Energy Minister'! Not only did she then support wind farms but also became a loud supporter or Fracking.
Leopolds don't change their spots so don't believe any rubbish she may spout..

HPFA · 11/07/2016 06:31

She has now "apologised"

“I’ve already said to Theresa how very sorry I am for any hurt I have caused and how that article said completely the opposite of what I said and believe,” she said.

We've all read the transcript Andrea. Repeating this lie isn't actually going to make it true.

after the story was made public she had felt “under attack, under enormous pressure … It has been shattering.”

You're trying to be PM Andrea, are we supposed to have sympathy here?

Seriously, even if you like her policies surely it's now obvious this person should be nowhere near no 10? I mean, I quite like some of Jeremy Corbyn's policies but I can see that he's nowhere near PM material. Same goes here.

JudyCoolibar · 11/07/2016 07:45

I think in her head she wants to convince herself that it misrepresented her because she prefaced her remarks with that stuff about how it would be horrible to suggest that it was about her having children and TM not. The trouble is, that is irrelevant. She very specifically makes a bid deal about the fact that she's a mother, and she very specifically said that that makes her better because she has a stake in the future that the childless don't have. Constantly proclaiming that that doesn't mean precisely what the headline said it meant just makes her sound even more dishonest.

The fact that she is now going for the sympathy vote by saying it was "shattering" for her only makes things worse. If she can't cope with this, how on earth would she cope with, say, a major financial crisis, or in a stand-off with Putin or Merkel?

SnowBells · 11/07/2016 08:14

JudyCoolibar

She wouldn't cope. I almost want to see her in those scenarios just to see the car crash! Confused

nauticant · 11/07/2016 08:37

Following normal practice when interviewing a major political figure. Rachel Sylvester handed Leadsom a gun. Leadsom decided to shoot TM with it but instead shot herself in the foot. She then claimed that evil Sylvester had shot her in the foot. When footage emerged showing clearly that it was Leadsom who pulled the trigger, Leadsom told the world she's so upset by it all it made her cry. And she's now presenting herself as a victim.

I cannot imagine why anyone could look at such manipulative and incompetent behaviour and think "this is the person we must have as PM". But then everything is screwed up at the moment.

ArcheryAnnie · 11/07/2016 08:54

We've now got her saying she's under "enormous pressure". She said something to a journalist and it was recorded by that journalist and written down in the article that hournalist write. AL knew the person she was speaking to was a journalist, and one would presume that AL, as an MP and a minister, knows what a journalist is and what they do.

She is standing for PM. She would lead us in any crisis or wartime situation. That's what being under "enormous pressure" would entail, and it's clear she'd be wholly unsuited for it.

HPFA · 11/07/2016 09:14

Anyone who wants a good laugh should read the actual article in the Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/10/ive-been-under-attack-its-been-shattering-andrea-leadsom-apologi/

And if you can't get behind the paywall here's my favourite bit:

*When she and Ben first met on a Barclays bank training course, every month they would take a bunch of disadvantaged kids on an outward-bound weekend. The memory lingers of a little boy who got badly stung when he tried to pick a blackberry. “He didn’t know what nettles were and he’d never seen a blackberry,” she recalls. “We wanted kids like him to just have a bit of childhood.”

I wonder how many Cameron modernisers, who fancy themselves enlightened compared with the “dangerous reactionary” Leadsom, have taken such a hands-on approach to their much-hyped sense of “social justice”. *

So let's forget all that guff about the minimum wage and maternity rights shall we? To be a great champion of social justice all you need to do is take a few poor little kids BlackBerrying? Go, Andrea!!!

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 11/07/2016 09:39

God that Telegraph article! I don't think I've ever read anything so sycophantic. Then I noticed the writer is none other than Allison Pearson - another right wing poster-girl.

So she's shattered. And crying. Andrea is going to have to seriously toughen up if she's to be PM. This little storm in a tea cup is nothing compared to what she is going to face as the PM that is going to take us through Brexit..

RedToothBrush · 11/07/2016 09:49

Can you imagine Andrea dealing with riots?

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 11/07/2016 09:50

She'll send the hounds in.

Then she'll cry.

Sallyingforth · 11/07/2016 11:48

It's rumoured that AL will announce at 12.00 that she will drop out of the contest.

Globetrotter100 · 11/07/2016 11:51

Great. I read she's said "the abuse was too great". I guess she's referring to her tax returns then Grin

Sallyingforth · 11/07/2016 11:53

Info from here:
order-order.com/2016/07/11/andrea-leadsom-pulls/

ARumWithAView · 11/07/2016 11:53

Shit -- BBC news now leading with suggestion she'll drop out asap.

Can't stand the woman, but way to feed misogynistic bullshit about women not being fit to lead. Pulling out after some negative media coverage is utterly pathetic.

Mistigri · 11/07/2016 12:20

So Leadsom is out - and May seems to have borrowed Ed Miliband's manifesto from the last GE.

Could British politics get any weirder?

BeMorePanda · 11/07/2016 14:34

I don't think it's at all misogynistic to say AL is not fit to lead!

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 11/07/2016 15:00

AL was not fit to lead - not because she was a woman, but because she did not have the experience.

I'm no fan of May - but I think she has the grit and experience necessary.

roundaboutthetown · 11/07/2016 16:30

I don't think it was pathetic of her to pull out of the race, I think it was the right thing to do...

JudyCoolibar · 11/07/2016 17:02

The trouble is that her excuse about it being bad for everyone to have 9 weeks delay was equally valid a week ago. Logically on that basis she should have pulled out immediately after the Parliamentary party vote.

LineyReborn · 11/07/2016 17:06

I said she would never be PM. I mean, come on.

Basicbrown · 11/07/2016 18:15

Can't stand the woman, but way to feed misogynistic bullshit about women not being fit to lead. Pulling out after some negative media coverage is utterly pathetic.

Well don't you sound lovely Hmm

ARumWithAView · 11/07/2016 20:37

Not trying to sound lovely, Basicbrown.

She was the second-choice contender to lead this country through whatever shit hits the fan before the next general election -- anything from Brexit fallout to something completely unforseen, like a major terrorist attack.

After a very, very brief period of saying 'pick me', she's stepped down. As JudyCoolibar said, the rationale that she wanted to remove herself from consideration for the sake of unity and the greater good was equally valid a week ago. Even if it's true, she's made it sound unconvincing by letting or even purposefully aiding her campaign issues and departure be spun by the media as a case of personal weakness. The Telegraph interview published this morning being a major example:

When Andrea Leadsom came on the phone yesterday afternoon I could tell from her voice that she’d been crying. After what had happened, the last thing she wanted was to talk to another journalist, but she agreed, with great trepidation, to speak to me as we’d planned.

...she admits she has felt “under attack, under enormous pressure. It has been shattering.”

The lovely, confident, sparky woman I met on Friday sounds like the life force has drained out of her. Genuinely (a favourite Leadsom word), I feel for her. Politics at the highest level is a brutal game.

According to a Cabinet minister who spoke anonymously to Pearson, Leadsom needed to “prove she can take the heat or get back to the kitchen”. This is the kind of snide bullshit, overt or otherwise, that prospective female leaders are up against: the suspicion that, when it comes to the 'brutal game' of high level politics, they'll break.

Leadsom's leadership campaign would've been dismal by any standards, but none of the male gobshites who've fallen or been shoved on their swords in the past month have made it about personal impact or complained about intense scrutiny and pressure -- or, if they have, I haven't noticed it being spun that way by the media.

Either Leadsom thought depicting herself as vulnerable was a winner she gave Pearson that interview; said the right words which permitted Pearson's ostensibly supportive (but actually very patronising) piece to be written or she was completely incompetent when dealing with the media.

It is for the best that she's stood down, but she's managed to give various journalists and commentators the opportunity to tell the story as 'lovely sparky confident woman, so ambitious, utterly breaks down under brief period of domestic pressure, oh what a shame'. And that's a fucking downer, considering how few women there are in positions of power, and what gender-driven bullshit they have to contend with to get there.

smallfox2002 · 11/07/2016 20:48

Um has no one noticed how the next PM is going to be female? Has managed to roll with the punches aimed her way and get by.

Lets be honest AL was opportunist, as opportunist as Gove, and was prompted to stand by the hard neo liberal right of the party.

Can we not say that things are misogynist or whatever when really the candidate was just not up to it.

LikeDylanInTheMovies · 12/07/2016 00:56

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Much as I dislike the Tories, May played a blinder: said and did as little as possible, kept her nerve as her rivals knifed, betrayed and cocked up and then calmly took the reigns with the careers of her rivals in tatters. Sort of like Fortinbras in Hamlet. Lest we forget less than a fortnight ago Johnson was the favourite for the leadership.

Basicbrown · 12/07/2016 06:32

I agree with it being for the best but labelling her as 'pathetic' when things have gone wrong is personal and nasty. Life is hard for all of us at times being upset isn't something to judge for.

The mum aspect was the wrong approach. No one seems to consider the possibility of the cause being the discrimination in this country against women with children in the workplace....? Just a thought.