When do you think it will feel better?

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I know lots of you will want to say: "get over yourselves already", but please be kind (or say nothing!).

But for those of you for whom this is genuinely devastating, emotionally, morally, practically (if you or partner is non-British), or job-wise - when do you think it will start to feel better?

I'm waking every morning feeling as if, yes, the sky has fallen if, or as if I've experienced a personal bereavement.

Oh well here's a video of Boris getting a bit of grief in the street...

www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2016/jul/01/mr-johnson-arent-you-responsible-for-implementing-brexit-video

I'm feeling a little calmer.

Was it on here, the David Mitchell quote of "I'm just going to pretend that I don't care"?

Maybe not that far, but I can persuade myself that it's Someone Else's Problem right now, and it'll take some time for Someone Else to sort it out. Until then, I'm still in an EU country, and I shall continue to live my life and enjoy the things that are important to me ( and fill in my Irish passport form). On a selfish basis, my own job is unlikely to be affected for a while, although DH is a financial advisor so he's facing major stress factors right now.

I'm also making sure I look after myself - take more care over what I eat, make sure I get enough water and exercise, and I'm doing some Tai Chi and Yoga to help relax.

thank you.

It's great to see him looking genuinely weak. May he slope off and never be seen again.

I guess the bus crime joke from yesterday's speech was written before the Gove intervention....

Does anyone else feel torn between:

• selfcare - need to sleep better, to turn off the news...
• feeling responsible for not having done enough, for fiddling while Rome burned....

and

• feeling you need to DO something now (having realised we all should have done more before)

That's how I feel and it's tiring.

"I'm also making sure I look after myself - take more care over what I eat, make sure I get enough water and exercise, and I'm doing some Tai Chi and Yoga to help relax."
^^
This is so important. I have been glued to social media since last Friday and am having intense conversations with my friends, many of whom are directly affected for different reasons. I have work to do that I have not done and I am going to start looking after myself (for me it's running), focusing on the here and now and trying to look for the silver lining in all things.
Melanie

Me too. I think I've worn out the refresh button on my laptop. What am I hoping has changed in the 2 minutes since I last checked. My poor kids have lived off ready meals and toast for the past week. I need to get back to some semblance of normal but the desperate part of me has to check just one more time.

I am really proud that so many in the country stood up to the big superstate and announced they mattered .
Hopefully all our kids won't be sent off Somme style to satiate Junckers desires against Russia.

whydid,

yes totally with you there

sleepdeprived, healthy food deprived. just trying to keep to kids fed and watered and clean.

meanwhile 24/24 on twitter/newsfeeds even though no one can give me any answers

my gran (eu) is 94. She feels the right wing and populist climate is the same as in the '30 and she is worried some spark may just set something very ugly off...

i hate uncertainty. Will my husband have a job in 2 years (or quicker), he works in FS, will we loose all the value of our house? will we need to uproot our family and move to another city? which one? should we look for secondary schools in 2years and the whole 11+ thing or not bother as we will need to move maybe? Will London change and lose it's 'multiculturality'? Will the kids get abuse for talking besides perfect uk english also another EU language? Will the uk try to make our life difficult here by reducing healthcare for EU nationals, increase taxes for us? will life simply become too expensive as it is already not easy in London?

I just can't get my head around it... still shellshocked

I think it's starting to happen. The news has shifted slightly, more positive talking about moving forward.

Hopefully all our kids won't be sent off Somme style to satiate Junckers desires against Russia.

I hope you are familiar with Gove and his attitude to war.

Not sure that it's positive necessarily but certainly interesting that the evening standard is highlighting how the leaders most likely to end up having to sort this out are all strong women - merkel, may, Clinton, sturgeon, Davies, eagle. That is quite a revolutionary moment - shame we had to wait for the moronic Etonians to completely fuck everything up first but hey, looking for a silver lining...!

bkgirl do yourself a favour and do some yoga, clean the house or something it will calm your mind. Then, book yourself onto a history class www.open.ac.uk/courses/qualifications/q97. HTH.

Chupachup I'll have some of whatever you're taking. Evening standard main news is of a serious property slump. This is bad news for everyone, not just London.

Choral singing is my thing. There is nothing more life affirming and bloody brilliant than standing in a huge choir, singing something loud, joyous and quite complicated (so you feel fab for having mastered it).

Is that hilary Clinton? If so, if she is sticking her nose in I'd be pretty worried. That women is a proven liar. Not some one I'd want 'helping' tbh.

fig don't get me wrong - we (Dh and I) maybe feeling a ripple of the fall out today. He works in FS. Not sure if it is. But I honestly can't worry any more. It doesn't help. Worry makes me sick - I have anxiety as it is so I'mjust living each day as it comes.

Yes, yes, about the dilemma of self care vs doing something (but what?!). I'm actually quite looking forward to the football this evening (and I'm not even Welsh!), as a big event we can all get around.

P.s choral singing sounds like a lovely stress reliever - wish I wasn't tone deaf!

Fig, I love Choral singing but haven't done it in many years. I might look up some local choirs. Thank you for the idea.

Was it on here, the David Mitchell quote of "I'm just going to pretend that I don't care"?

He tweeted it on the 24th. I posted that, and obviously didn't manage it at all - if my posts on here last night are anything to go by....

Today's Mood

That's lovely Figment :) I recently bought a guitar because I miss singing so much. I can't play much but singing is wonderful, it really helps.

I too have been lacking in the self care stuff and it all got a bit much today. I knew that I needed to sleep and I had time to nap but I needed to eat first and clean and I just ended up sitting motionless in front of my computer for 3 hours getting progressively more hungry until I finally came across something funny on youtube and then I was able to start the cleaning step by step. Then DH came home and took over and also told me to go to the shop and get some comfort food.

Who knows when it will end but I've started planning stuff in my own life to take my mind off things. Hopefully it will help. It seems silly because it's not even like it's likely to affect me personally as we already live abroad and it's likely we could get permanent residency anyway. But it still feels awful and won't go away.

And just silly little things will set me off too. Like yesterday I registered with a driving school and I needed to use my passport and it has "European Union" printed all shiny on the front and it made me sad.

Just watched that video of boris getting heckled- destiny, that's cheered me up!

Do you think there is value in the symbolic gestures like the petition and safety pin?
If so what value?

Or does "doing something" onlycount if you have an end game in view?

Do something if it makes you feel better.

If you want to wear a safety pin or sign a petition, go for it. No guarantees anything will come of it, but absolutely nail your colours to the mast!

Nice bits today for me - walking the dogs in a rainbow rainy sky, knowing that will never change.

Low bits - chatting to my son, in London, sort of arty-drama based career, and I know the arts is low on any priority list and is reliant on higher level grants and funding.

I guess maybe that is the value - that you are nailing your colours to the mast.
I would like to do a bit more though

dora that's really registered with me. When commentators/journos say, oh this is reminiscent of whatever period, you kind of take it with a pinch of salt, but when someone who was actually there says "this feels like it did in the 30s" that's kind of worrying.

Don't want to bring everyone down though. I'm off to a wedding tomorrow. I hope bride and groom voted the same way, otherwise it could be awkward! Desperately hoping for sun, too. In Scotland. Wish me luck!