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Brexit

Europe's Leading Statesman Gives 'Em Hell

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claig · 28/06/2016 10:56

Farage addresses the European Parliament after historic Brexit vote.

He says "most of you have never had a real job in your lives" and they all nod in agreement. Farage says "the little people defied the multinationals" and the multinationals sadly agree.

As Farage speaks to the world, puppets panic, stooges are stunned, elitists take a lie down, globalists are gobsmacked and the people party.

At the end of Farage's speech, the Establishment broadcast their pre-recorded booing tape in order to drown out the roar of defiance of the British people.

After Farage, Marine Le Pen speaks and says that the Brexit vote is the biggest event in Europe since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

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Lweji · 29/06/2016 15:14

Funnily enough, sometimes you can think she whatever is being ironic and joking, but then she isn't and she's upset that we are joking.
Other times, when not convenient to her, she suddenly comes up with"I was joking".

It's something to do when you're bored.

Lweji · 29/06/2016 15:54

True European states(wo)men give UK hell:

"EU leaders say UK cannot have 'a la carte' single market"

"UK has no prospect of keeping access to the single market unless it continues to accept EU migration."

"signs that Paris had begun manoeuvring to attract the substantial euro clearing business currently carried out in the City. Hollande said on Tuesday night a post-Brexit London should “not be able to handle clearing operations for the eurozone”.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/29/eu-leaders-begin-summit-talks-without-uk-for-first-time

Farage is a little bug.

Junker is laughing:
"“I thought that if you wanted to leave, you had a plan,” he said. “They don’t have it.”"

Well done Farage, Boris and the claigs of the UK.

claig · 29/06/2016 16:07

I am real, serious, ironic, joking, having a laugh and never ever losing it all at the same time.

Incredible speech by Trump. He gets it - elites, the people - he discusses the whole nine yards. What amazing times!

“I want you to imagine how much better our future can be if we declare independence from the elites who've led us to one financial and foreign policy disaster after another,” Mr Trump declared in a speech about economic and trade policy outside Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania.

“Our friends in Britain recently voted to take back control of their economy, politics and borders,” he said. “I was on the right side of that issue, as you know, with the people - I was there, I said it was going to happen, I felt it - while Hillary, as always, stood with the elites, and both she and president Obama predicted that one wrong”

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/in-major-trade-speech-donald-trump-vows-to-follow-britain-and-declare-economic-independence-for-a7108256.html

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claig · 29/06/2016 16:22

OK, it looks like the EU bureaucrats are trying to play hardball with us. This calls for an end to the Etonian circus, the Dog and Pony Show, It is time for the man who props up the bar at the Dog and Duck, Europe's leading statesman, to down his pint and lead our negotiation team.

They're having a laugh, and after Farage told them straight yesterday "you're not laughing now"

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smallfox1980 · 29/06/2016 16:30

No they are. Farage is still a joke as are his supporters.

user1467101855 · 29/06/2016 16:35

They're having a laugh, and after Farage told them straight yesterday "you're not laughing now"

Well, he is usually wrong, so no change there!

user1467101855 · 29/06/2016 16:38

Incredible speech by Trump. He gets it - elites, the people - he discusses the whole nine yards. What amazing times!

Amazing times indeed that anyone could call a Trump speech incredible! Didn't you see him in Scotland? He didn't know that Scotland voted against. Then he described it as a : beautiful thing, that was ugly and contentious, while also being friendly and peaceful.

And if billionaire Trump isn't the Elite, who the fuck is?

BreakingDad77 · 29/06/2016 16:46

Claig - it not that he gets it, lets not kid ourselves that these are all rich people!

He gets how to appeal to peoples worse nature preying on their fears, much the same way here with immigration, wage depression etc.

The UK ruined its manufacturing and tech etc and has put all its eggs in the financial and consultancy services. We are sadly all tied to that, i would love to see more regulation, massively higher taxation, but will never happen.

PlatoTheGreat · 29/06/2016 16:47

Hmm taking control back from the country from what? The Elite?
If one thing hasnt changed its that.
Even Farage is still part of the elite.

And whatever deal will be agreed on, it will be done with and for businesses (as shown by the fact Unilns weren't allowed into the talks with businesses about Brexit)

PlatoTheGreat · 29/06/2016 16:49

And YY Teumos is just the same. Part of an elite, full of money.
I'm Shock that people could think otherwise.

PlatoTheGreat · 29/06/2016 16:49

Sorry it's Trump of course (auto correct dysfunction)

Reapwhatyousow · 29/06/2016 19:42

On the undedited/unabridged version I detected applause. Listen again.

mathanxiety · 29/06/2016 20:36

OK, so what you are saying is that Boris is a total flake whom nobody should take seriously, and if elected PM will do the bidding of big business.

Seriously, if the British public were asked to vote for this, would they?

"Boris will probably stitch the people up and work with business, but it will be difficult for him because the whole world has witnessed "the will of the British people and our whole democracy will be a laughing stock if we don't leave..."

Do you understand that Britain does not have the option any more of not leaving? Do you understand that the stance of the EU is, 'Don't let the door hit you on the way out'?

Britain will leave, and the working class will be stitched up, because Britain still has to function (but with credit ratings downgraded borrowing will cost Britain more), pay bills to creditors, only this time outside of a major trading bloc, and 'unshackled' from pesky EU regulations on work conditions, etc. The working class is about to be exposed to the reality of being treated as labour costs and will be expected to be more productive (i.e. cost less) than workers in Malaysia, Bangladesh, etc. Thanks to Brexit, the working class now has its backs to the wall.

“The E.U. is failing, the E.U. is dying,” declared the leader of the U.K. Independence Party, Nigel Farage,
The similarity in his expression to that of "The sky is falling" can't go unremarked.
'The phrase "The sky is falling!" features prominently in the story [that ends badly], and has passed into the English language as a common idiom indicating a hysterical or mistaken belief that disaster is imminent.' [wiki]

You have your children's fables wrong. It's not Humpty Dumpty but Henny Penny you should be focusing on.

Q "'What will be the incentive for parliament to change how they are elected? Why now?'"
A "Because we are going through an earthquake. They have to create stability. Now, because the people stuck two fingers up and challenged their rule, representativeness and even legitimacy to represent the people."
This is utter nonsense. 'The people' gave the Tories a 12 seat majority last time out, with a respectable 66.1% turnout. They don't 'have to' do anything that would jeopardise their stranglehold.
Here it is in bold technicolour.

claig · 29/06/2016 21:00

'OK, so what you are saying is that Boris is a total flake whom nobody should take seriously, and if elected PM will do the bidding of big business.

Seriously, if the British public were asked to vote for this, would they?'

I think so, because that is no change to what we always get in power. The opposition at the moment is falling to pieces and the public knows that we will never get miracles such as someone with common sense in power, so Boris is the best choice we have.

That is why I want PR voting so that our entire system is opened up and liberated so that we can have all sorts of different arguments and parties such as a real Corbyn Labour Party without the Establishment favourites in it, so that the people can choose what they really want and not just vote for Boris because there is no one else available.

'Do you understand that Britain does not have the option any more of not leaving? Do you understand that the stance of the EU is, 'Don't let the door hit you on the way out'?'

Tough talk from Germany is for public consumption, what is going on behind closed doors is anyone's guess. Laura Kuenssberg said on the Daily Politics that there are some conspiracy theories going around and someone on that show asked if Labour could stand in 2020 for entry back into the EU and Emily Thornberry didn't categorically rule it in or out. We know that the Establishment wants us in it, we know that the Establishment has its favourite MPs who appear on TV and lecture the public, so nothing is set in stone yet. The Establishment know it is very difficult for them because as Owen Paterson said "it would discredit our entire political system" if we didn't leave and that would probably create a surge in votes for the only anti-establishment party we have, the only party that wanted to leave the EU, UKIP, and that would be a nightmare for the Establishment.

'Thanks to Brexit, the working class now has its backs to the wall.'

I don't think so. The working class voted for Brexit because they want sovereignty back in order to elect and deselect politicians who can be held to account and so that immigration can be controlled which will ease the pressure on the NHS, housing and jobs. Alo the economy will do fine over the near term as a weaker pound will help exports.

'The people' gave the Tories a 12 seat majority last time out, with a respectable 66.1% turnout. They don't 'have to' do anything that would jeopardise their stranglehold.'

A 12 seat majority is not a stranglehold particularly as the pro EU Tories dislike Boris for joining the people, and the anti EU Tories will not accept any stitchups that Boris might do. Boris is walking a tightrope and he may get stuck in the middle as he did during the stunt at the Olympics.

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Clangersarepink · 29/06/2016 21:12

Claig, I suggest you go read Orwell's Animal Farm.

smallfox1980 · 29/06/2016 21:16

I think 1984 might be more her style.

mathanxiety · 29/06/2016 21:22

"The working class voted for Brexit because they want sovereignty back in order to elect and deselect politicians who can be held to account and so that immigration can be controlled which will ease the pressure on the NHS, housing and jobs. Also the economy will do fine over the near term as a weaker pound will help exports."

Exports to where?
And what does a weaker pound do to imports?
And what do falling credit ratings do to borrowing costs that keep the NHS running. Forget the NHS, what about the borrowing costs to keep Wales running?

The working class voted Tory despite indications that the NHS is going to be sold off.

The working class voted Tory despite the fact that housing is not available thanks to Right To Buy, BTL, and a host of other elements of native British government policies that had nothing whatsoever to do with the EU.

The working class voted Tory despite the Tory party presiding over the immigration that it sees as the main problem.

The working class voted Brexit despite the EU rules and regulations about hiring and firing that allowed them a little job security.

All encouraged by the Tories and the Brexiteers.

You mention 'laughing' a lot in your posts, and the term 'laughing stock' too. If the spectacle of grossly irresponsible politicians leading desperate and gullible people by the nose wasn't so tragic I suppose it would indeed be funny.

caitlinohara · 29/06/2016 21:27

On Trump/Johnson, Dave Gorman tweeted the other day that Trump is a stupid man pretending to be clever, Boris is a clever man pretending to be stupid. Grin I have no idea whether that's true but it did raise a smile.

claig · 29/06/2016 21:36

'Exports to where?'

The rest of the world. We export more to Luxembourg than to India. That is ridiculous. Send some trade delegations out there, send Sir Blob Bogoff out there (on second thoughts, don't, it could turn into a disaster for us) and drum up some trade.

'And what does a weaker pound do to imports?'
It increases the cost, except that now that we are out of the EU, we can buy goods from Africa with no more tariffs which reduces our import costs and we can carry out a policy of import substitution where we service our own internal needs by creating employment locally, reducing our imports and increasing employment.

'And what do falling credit ratings do to borrowing costs that keep the NHS running. Forget the NHS, what about the borrowing costs to keep Wales running?'

These are temporary effects and will soon disappear.

"The working class voted Tory despite indications that the NHS is going to be sold off.
The working class voted Tory despite the fact that housing is not available thanks to Right To Buy, BTL, and a host of other elements of native British government policies that had nothing whatsoever to do with the EU.
The working class voted Tory despite the Tory party presiding over the immigration that it sees as the main problem.
The working class voted Brexit despite the EU rules and regulations about hiring and firing that allowed them a little job security."

Yes to all of that because while the working class weren't happy with the Tories, they thought they were more common sense and would be less bad than Labour in general.

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RainYourRottingMyDhaliaBulbs · 29/06/2016 21:37

I don't understand the elite comments. surely anyone who is now in a position of power is now the elite? Corbyn may wear shoddy old suits but he is part of the elite is he not?
You can be part of or from the elite and yet still speak out agaisnt the elite, ie big business, cosy establishments.

math blairs government has corralled many people sadly who are all over the place just voting to get us out of the EU which - they did in huge numbers. Its Blairs legacy ( another one, along side Iraq of course) .

I found the pretending to be stupid joke funny. How would they catoragrise Blair?

A man who has set up some sort of Muslim think tank in Washington and has baffled his colleges by not including a single.......Muslim. That is not particularly what baffled his colleagues it was HIS wonderment as to why that may be an issue Shock

claig · 29/06/2016 21:37

We currently have an EU 15% tariff on cars from Japan. We can scrap the tariffs and get cheaper cars.

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caitlinohara · 29/06/2016 21:38

mathanxiety The EU have a similar ideology though, don't they? I mean, it's not exactly a left wing outlook is it? It's neoliberal, allowing the privatisation of public services. And really, Labour lost a lot of working class votes to UKIP rather than the Tories, and that's their own fault for not representing them better. Labour fought this referendum on workers' rights, and no one listened to them, perhaps because they didn't really believe that the Tories would take them away and risk losing an election.

user1467101855 · 29/06/2016 21:38

The rest of the world. We export more to Luxembourg than to India. That is ridiculous. Send some trade delegations out there, send Sir Blob Bogoff out there (on second thoughts, don't, it could turn into a disaster for us) and drum up some trade

Do you seriously think that you sell fuck all to India because no-one has ever asked them if they want any? What on earth do you think you could export to India?

caitlinohara · 29/06/2016 21:41

Rain IS THAT TRUE about Blair? Shock That's actually hilarious. What a twat.

RainYourRottingMyDhaliaBulbs · 29/06/2016 21:43

Labour fought this referendum on workers' rights, and no one listened to them, perhaps because they didn't really believe that the Tories would take them away and risk losing an election

workers rights!

your talking about bone fide jobs with contracts. Many people dont live like that, they scrub around to make a living doing this and that!

who has been their main competition? who?!

Frank Field, vote leave for the poor. When your at the bottom and you have nothing, you dont want to be fighting against imported poor from elsewhere. Where is your government protecting you then? Your government has shat on you, made your hard life harder but now they are trying to offer you workers rights?

Its like saying " Oh I am sorry your neighbours are causing you grief, ask the LL to look at their contract, he can probably get them out on clause B of their tenancy agreement".

You reply, "the LL cant speak English, the neighbors are not on tenancy contracts and can't speak English either". Baffling.

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