Europe's Leading Statesman Gives 'Em Hell

[claig]

Farage addresses the European Parliament after historic Brexit vote.

He says "most of you have never had a real job in your lives" and they all nod in agreement. Farage says "the little people defied the multinationals" and the multinationals sadly agree.

As Farage speaks to the world, puppets panic, stooges are stunned, elitists take a lie down, globalists are gobsmacked and the people party.

At the end of Farage's speech, the Establishment broadcast their pre-recorded booing tape in order to drown out the roar of defiance of the British people.

After Farage, Marine Le Pen speaks and says that the Brexit vote is the biggest event in Europe since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

'Again, I have to ask - what "people"?
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All of us, working class, middle class and upper class who do not form the elite.

So those of us who stand the most to lose in economic turmoil then?

Thanks for liberating us Claig, oh wise one, thanks for lowering house prices , thanks for making jobs more unstable. Thanks for putting us in a situation where employment regulations will be repealed.

smallfox1980, no one knows what will happen. It is an earthquake, but as Gove rightly said, we can't predict the future, but we do know that we can deal with whatever comes best if we are in control of our own affairs.

But "we" aren't in control of anything, no more so than "we" were in the EU.

This is what you fail to understand.

I encourage you to go read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klien to start with, then move on to some Chomsky, then after that I encourage you to go look at the Friedman, who will give you the blue print of what you have voted for.

claig
You have German relatives, you say? is that you, Nigel?

'I encourage you to go read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klien to start with, then move on to some Chomsky'

Yes it is good stuff, I should read it one day. I voted to get out of the European Union. I expect the result will be a complete change in our political system because the Esatablishment will be unable to stop the shockwaves of Bexit shaking our politics up. The Corbyn coup is the first sign of the changes to come. If we are lucky, we will be granted PR voting and then all of diverse views can be properly represented with no more safe seats etc.

That will improve our country, because the Etonian dog and pony show will come to an end.

Oh really. But Boris will be PM?

You're a fantasist.

'You have German relatives, you say? is that you, Nigel? '

No

'Oh really. But Boris will be PM?'

That is just the first step. Now we are free. Who knows what will happen in the next 20 years? Maybe Corbyn will win the next election. No one knows.

Corbyn won't be there at the next election, I voted for him last time I won't this, as won't a huge number of the Labour membership.

Boris will be PM, and how will that stop the Etonian dog and pony show.

You have no idea do you?

You make all these assertions but basically your analysis of everything is based on what goes on in your head. Not reality.

We have always been free, we are not and have not been for over a thousand years, an oppressed nation 🙄

Yes we have always been free. And Corbyn and Johnson in charge of both parties would be a disaster.

Millions are angry that an advisory ill informed vote is going to strip them of their EU citizenship - this is not the end of it.

This is the march I was on yesterday:
(Jon Snow was wrong in that we were in Trafalgar Square for 3 hours before marching - see pics).

amp.twimg.com/v/59fd99dc-d1cd-4bb3-81d4-fa10d35cba8f

Thousands of young people chanting "Migrants in, Boris Out" (and worse ), "Love Not Hate", "Save Us Scotland ", "We Are Europeans", "Vote It Down", "EU Forever, Boris Never". Young people who want to be part of an interconnected world and not turn their backs on it - who don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

This is Saturday's (July 2nd) London march.

heyevent.uk/event/d72ipmth6gcsma/march-to-parliament-against-brexit

Do you not understand the importance of national sovereignty, of the people having sovereignty and to be able to sack their own lawmakers?

But but but but...

Apart altogether from being wrong about national sovereignty, do you realise the exit vote means in effect that Britain will end up - by default and not because of the will of the people - with the most right wing nutjob government it has ever had?

What will that mean for 'the people' ? Would 'the people' choose that if they were faced explicitly with that choice?

Whose voice do you really think is going to be heard in this brave new right wing future? The voice of capital or the voice of 'labour costs'?

'Britain will end up - by default and not because of the will of the people - with the most right wing nutjob government it has ever had? '

No, because Boris is not right wing, he is a progressive, which is why Farage worries that he might stitch us up over leaving the EU. Boris was pro EU for years, he doesn't care about the people, he will do what business wants and business, the CBI, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan etc all wanted to stay in the EU. So Boris will serve. Boris's dad used to work for the EU and is a big environmentalist who has written books on population control and voted to Remain. Rachel Johnson was on the boat with Sir Blob Geldrip and she voted for Remain. Boris is for amnesty for immigrants that have been here 12 years. Boris is not right wing.

Boris is likely to backtrack and come out with the usual Cameron speak soon. His heart is not really in leaving the EU.

The current Tory government has a tiny majority and most of its MPs backed Team Cameron. The same people will be in government.

What has happened is that the people in a referendum with one of the biggest turnouts in our history has instructed the government to leave the EU. They are all in a pickle because the British people voted against their will.

Now we will have to see what they do. They all say, along with all the banks and multinationals "we will respect the will of the British people".
If they don't, then as Owen Paterson said "it will discredit our entire political system".

They are using TV propaganda against Brexit voters, they are encouraging petitions and marches so that the losing political class of cronies can somehow overturn the "will of the British people" by holding another referendum. We will have to see if they succeed.

'The voice of capital or the voice of 'labour costs'?'

The voice of capital wanted to remain in the EU. It was the voice of the people who wanted to leave.

Boris will probably stitch the people up and work with business, but it will be difficult for him because the whole world has witnessed "the will of the British people and our whole democracy will be a laughing stock if we don't leave.

If we are lucky, we will be granted PR voting

This is the only aspect I could agree with you, but you should be under no illusion that by leaving the EU you won't be granted anything like a PR vote. The status quo will be maintained because it suits the Tories.

Unlike with the EP where you did get PT.

PR even

Farage is a liar and a hippocrit!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nigel-farage-eu-referendum_uk_576e6585e4b08d2c56393f12

our whole democracy will be a laughing stock if we don't leave

It's not if you don't leave that you'll be a laughing stock. There will be relief if you don't because of how it affects citizens' lives. You know, the people. Both in the UK and outside.
And trust me, outside the UK nobody is laughing at you or with. Not more than anyone laughs at a child having a tantrum.

Our democracy is already a laughing stock. We are objects of pity or disgust.

'be under no illusion that by leaving the EU you won't be granted anything like a PR vote'

We don't know. Labour are in danger of being wiped out now because they are split between Corbyn and the stooges. Umunna and McDonnell have now smelt the coffee and realised that PR voting is only right to allow real representation of the people's views because the people feel they are not listened to by the metropolitan elite MPs.

The Tories will try to stop it but I don't think they will be able to because Jenny Jones (who voted Brexit), Umunna and the Team, and of course the person they all unite in despising, Farage, are all for PR voting.

This Brexit earthquake has shaken our system. Heseltine was on Newsnight last night and said "it is the biggest constitutional crisis in his lifetime". Humpty Dumpty has had a big fall and Sir Humphrey won't be able to put it back together again without proper PR voting so that all of our different views can be properly represented so that the Etonian dog and pony show can come to an end.

What do you think will happen that will change how MPs are chosen that wouldn't happen within the EU?

Actually, that would have been a much better referendum to push for by the British.

At least it's something that could benefit them.

I just don't see it more likely to happen outside than inside the EU. If anything your establishment will be tighter in controlling the public's influence on power structures.

And "we don't know" is hardly a statement of confidence.

Won't happen claig. Boris will be next pm. The Eton show will go on.

'What do you think will happen that will change how MPs are chosen that wouldn't happen within the EU?'

You live in Portugal and Portuguese politicians determine what happens there. In the UK, the people have spoken, they don't want to be part of a club where Portuguese and French and German etc MEPs or foreign bureaucrats and appointees and former Presidents of other countries have any say in any of our laws. We want our laws to be made by British MPs who we can elect and deselect and hold to account if we don't like their Etonian pasty taxes. We want the people to be sovereign, and all of our political class and all of the banks are saying "we will respect the will of the British people".

'I just don't see it more likely to happen outside than inside the EU'

We have the Mother of Parliaments and have had a democratic system for years. We created the NHS without the EU and we are capable of governing ourselves and changing our political system without the help of the EU. In fact, it will now be much easier to make changes and have the people's voice heard because we won't need to send incompetent Cameron and his useless team of Etonians to be outwitted by each of the other 27 countries' teams before we are allowed to buy a toaster we fancy.