Europe's Leading Statesman Gives 'Em Hell

[claig]

Farage addresses the European Parliament after historic Brexit vote.

He says "most of you have never had a real job in your lives" and they all nod in agreement. Farage says "the little people defied the multinationals" and the multinationals sadly agree.

As Farage speaks to the world, puppets panic, stooges are stunned, elitists take a lie down, globalists are gobsmacked and the people party.

At the end of Farage's speech, the Establishment broadcast their pre-recorded booing tape in order to drown out the roar of defiance of the British people.

After Farage, Marine Le Pen speaks and says that the Brexit vote is the biggest event in Europe since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

'What do you think will happen that will change how MPs are chosen that wouldn't happen within the EU?'

You did go on about EU membership.
You just didn't answer my question. Could you please do it?

'Boris will be next pm. The Eton show will go on.'

Not sure Boris will be, but it doesn't matter. The entire system has been shaken to the core by the people defying it. There were tears in Number Ten after Cameron closed the door. The Etonians, the Oxonians, the Sir Humphreys couldn't believe what had happned. The British people had spoken and they had said "Out".

Nothing will be the same. We had Javid lecturing us in his confident tones on BBC Radio 4 this morning, but everybody in the country now knows these people are mere shells. The people are sovereign, we have spoken and the metropolitan elite will have to get used to it, suck it up and get on with serving the people.

We have the Mother of Parliaments and have had a democratic system for years

Again, irrelevant reply.
How do you reconcile that statement with insisting on PR?
And what does it have to do with the EU?
The EU never influenced how people vote for any government or any parliament. Certainly not in the UK.
(And btw, you may have the mother of Parliaments, but it's very outdated. And it doesn't represent the will of the people, as you said yourself on other posts)

'What do you think will happen that will change how MPs are chosen that wouldn't happen within the EU?''

I think that our system has been rocked to the core by the people defying it. I think that will mean we will have splits in parties, Corbyn will have a real Labour party and there will be the Stooge Party created by the Labour stooges. The Tories may split, particularly if Boris stitches the people up. And Establishment favourite, Umunna, will say we need PR voting and we will eventually get that.

None of that would have happened if we had remained in the EU. The Dog and Pony Show would have continued, but now the British people have called time on the showerand we will see huge changes.

'And btw, you may have the mother of Parliaments, but it's very outdated. And it doesn't represent the will of the people, as you said yourself on other posts'

Yes, and the defiance of the British people against our Dog and Pony ruling class will lead to huge changes for the better in our democracy which will benefit the people.

Huge changes, yes. Undoubtedly.

PeaceOfWildThings, I think the changes will be positive.

All the people marching for a second referendum, may one day march for PR voting. It is now up to us to make sure that the Dog and Pony Show listens to the will of the people and delivers a politics that listens to the people rather than to the banks and the lobbyists.

We are living through the most tumultuous upheaval in our politics in our lifetimes. The Establishment have been rocked, the people stuck two fingers up. They will have to change now.

The very prestigious US Time magazine reporting on the earthquake that the rebellion of the British people delivered

"The Brexit Vote Is a New Milestone in the Global War on Elites

In a stunning victory for the anti-establishment forces that have upended mainstream politics across the Western world, British voters chose on Thursday to pull their country out of the European Union, sending global markets into a tailspin and encouraging anti-E.U. forces across the continent to push for their own referenda on whether to break away.

“The E.U. is failing, the E.U. is dying,” declared the leader of the U.K. Independence Party, Nigel Farage, one of the leaders of the campaign for the British exit, or Brexit, from the union formed from the ruins of Europe after World War II. “It’s a victory against big business…against big politics,” he told reporters early on Friday morning, as the results showed 52% of the votes had been cast in favor of leaving and 48% against."

time.com/4381313/brexit-vote-david-cameron-elites/

Tears in Number Ten, tantrums at the Bullingdon Club, a new democratic future for the people set to emerge from the ruins of the system the people defied.

And Establishment favourite, Umunna, will say we need PR voting and we will eventually get that.

Ok, so, you think one person will speak and the political establishment will follow through?
But why will they speak up now and be listened to now?
What will be the incentive for parliament to change how they are elected? Why now? I can't see all those safe seats suddenly voting in favour of uncertainty.
More importantly, if anything, after the result from this referendum I'd worry how the British public uses their direct vote.

And please don't do the soundbite thing. I just ignore that.

Swapping one Bullingdon club member for another isn't getting rid of the elites, the more you go on about the elite narrative the more silly you look You essentially define anyone who is an elite as someone who you don't like or makes statements that you don't like. So you don't class the Rothemere's and Murdoch as elites but you do Obama? Utterly dimwitted.

'Ok, so, you think one person will speak and the political establishment will follow through?'

Umunna is the Establishment's favourite, so what Umunna says is what they are thinking. They know they have to change, there were some reports saying that the Establishment was heard saying "the game's up, now we have to listen to the people".

Umunna represents the Establishment's thinking.

'But why will they speak up now and be listened to now? '

Because Humpty Dumpty has had a great fall, they have to put it back together again to create stability and confidence in the system. they know they can't go back to their old ways. They are not happy at the British people, they are calling them all the names under the sun on the media - "thick", "uneducated", "old" and "racist" - because they know the people have won.

'What will be the incentive for parliament to change how they are elected? Why now?'

Because we are going through an earthquake. They have to create stability. Now, because the people stuck two fingers up and challenged their rule, representativeness and even legitimacy to represent the people.

'the more you go on about the elite narrative the more silly you look'

I linked to the prestigious US Time Magazine saying the same thing. All the clever journalists in all the papers, including the Guardain, are saying the same thing. Everybody knows it, it can't be hidden any more. The British people pulled back the mask and revealed the whole game.

The elites narrative is a false one though, if you've bought into it you have been duped into buying into it by one part of the elite. The neo conservative, very neo liberal elite. Not the middle of the road lot.

I can't believe you keep repeating the stuff that you do without seeing this, it beggars belief.

So essentially you've voted against your own interests, in favour of an elite who will make things worse for you. This is idiocy not a revolution.

Here is one of our finest journalists, the Guardian's John Harris. He can't fail to see what is happening

"Britain is in the midst of a working-class revolt

Across the nation this past week I’ve heard the same refrain: ‘No one listens to us, no one cares.’ Now those ignored for so long are demanding a voice

Hardly anybody talks about the official campaigns, and the most a mention of the respective figureheads of each camp tends to elicit is a dismissive tut – but just about everyone agrees that this is a fantastically important moment, and a litmus test of the national mood."

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/17/britain-working-class-revolt-eu-referendum

Who cares about the leaders of the campaigns, or Boris etc? They are nobodies compared to the British people. This is an uprising of the people and the leaders have to follow the people.

'Across the nation this past week I’ve heard the same refrain: ‘No one listens to us, no one cares.’ '

That is why we need PR voting. We are all being ignored by the Westminster elite, metropolitan Dog and Pony Show.

They are trying to topple Corbyn, whom the Labour members voted in with the biggest mandate of any British politician in history. They say it is because he didn't do enough to stop Brexit, when Margaret Hodge couldn't stop two-thirds of her own constituents from voting for Brexit.

People aren't the property of parties, they don't do what Umunna says. Umunna and the Establishment team of stooges are even more unelectable than Corbyn. That is why PR voting is their last hope and that is why Umunna is all for it, and what Umunna says is what the Establishment says, so I think that will happen eventually.

Everything you say is meaningless Claig, you have voted for a policy that was driven by the very people you seek to dis stable.

This is not a revoution, John Harris wrote his piece prior to the referendum.

What is going to change?

You must've had some pretty strong coffee thismorning Claig😅😊

'You must've had some pretty strong coffee this morning'

Every morning

I've got one of those DeLonghi bean to cup machines and use the excellent German Tchibo beans.

Which reminds me, I could do with another cup

Can you clarify? Are you the very same Claig who was cheerleading and crowing about the People's Revolution when Corbyn was elected last year? And UKIP before that? And the Conservatives?

Don't you ever get confused about which political party you're supposed to be celebrating?

No she's a bandwagoner, really I think she just delights in being contrary and likes an argument.

claig

Yesterday,
"But it will all turn out right for the people."
Which is what you claimed will be the case after the Brexit poll, and what will be the case in the USA after Trump wins.

I asked 'Again, I have to ask - what "people"?'
to which you answered
"All of us, working class, middle class and upper class who do not form the elite."

But I had already pointed out that there were groups of people such as migrants, refugees etc., and anyone who is not "white", whose position (as the number of racist incidents in this country in the last few days shows) may have got worse. By your sort of definition, these groups would thus be not "people", but part of the "Establishment"!!!

Essentially Claig's version of the establishment is anyone she disagrees with.

Funny and sad at the same time.

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Yes what smallfox said. I don't engage in discussion with claig, it can be entertaining but I'm never sure if she (he, they?), is for real, ironic or losing it.