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Are there are some very sore losers after the EU Ref result?

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brodchengretchen · 27/06/2016 09:03

Should we now challenge parliamentary elections too if we don't like the result on the basis that some people are too lower class/poor/stupid to make a proper first time vote?

Or could that be a tad arrogant and patronising to the the section of the electorate that cast their vote and won, 'ignorant numpties' or not?

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Highlandfling80 · 28/06/2016 10:24

This is so bloody annoying. We could have got extra money for NHS by increasing taxes. But no leaving the EU. Was the way forward. Now we have voted to leave tax increases and spending cuts likely. Fantastic!

smallfox1980 · 28/06/2016 10:25

Sorry ThereIsIron.

I'm really sorry that this happened to you.

I don't think the remain side spouted bullshit. The markets were ALWAYS going to react like this. :(

Highlandfling80 · 28/06/2016 10:28

Yes also another credit rating downgrade and shares bring suspended but we are just sore losers

Highlandfling80 · 28/06/2016 10:28

Yes also another credit rating downgrade and shares bring suspended but we are just sore losers

MissHooliesCardigan · 28/06/2016 10:28

Christiano Ronaldo is a sore loser for moaning that Iceland defended too much.
People worried about their children's future and about the increase in racism and xenophobia, not so much.
There is a man who lives a few doors down from me who I make neighbourly small talk with and who I thought seemed like a nice enough bloke. Our NDNs (who are black) are moving soon. The above mentioned man knocked on our door yesterday to let us know that he'd met the woman moving in next door 'and you'll be relieved to hear she's white'.
I doubt the referendum has suddenly turned him into a racist but it's created an environment where people like him think it's fine to say things like that. If finding that extremely depressing makes me a sore loser, so be it

eyebrowse · 28/06/2016 10:33

Likely that many of the players would have not been playing to their usual standard after brexit. Not a country to be proud of

MitzyLeFrouf · 28/06/2016 11:25

I'd love to know where Springingintoaction is.. "All will be fine, project fear!" etc

Probably a plant.

Blue4ever · 28/06/2016 11:34

But I AM really scared now, I fear that there will be civil unrest. I know this is not what people want to he but there has been hundreds of cases or racially motivated hate crime across the UK and the media is not reporting it. People are being shouted at, spat at, attacked, houses graffitied and children bullied. I am beyond caring for my bank account, I now fear for my own safety and that of my children.

smallfox1980 · 28/06/2016 11:36

Oh gosh I really hope not. Although they did seem to be here 24/7 and do a lot of reporting of people who disagreed with them.

TheElementsSong · 28/06/2016 11:38

Shhh Blue, you're just spreading negativity. Wink

Blue4ever · 28/06/2016 11:39

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Blue4ever · 28/06/2016 11:41

I could post another 50 posts about race motivated hate crimes but I won't because I will be accused of throwing oil on the fire. Or maybe that's not the correct expression, English is only my fourth language.

TheElementsSong · 28/06/2016 11:51

Blue I'm scared too, for my children, my home, my job, my savings Sad. I deal with it with a lot of black humour but I am worried.

TheNaze73 · 28/06/2016 11:54

It's all part of the change curve, what us remainers are experiencing. Seeing something idiotic happening before your eyes, knowing you cannot influence it, is hard.

Blue4ever · 28/06/2016 11:54

I do laugh at it too, I laughed so much when Enland lost yesterday to Iceland that I woke up the children with all the cheering. Dh, who is English, was also cheering for Iceland. Small consolation...

janieblaye · 28/06/2016 13:56

Sore losers is term for when you fuck up a game of Scrabble.

This isn't a game of Scrabble.

We already have leave voters regretting their choice, admitting they do not even know what they were voted for and open admissions that they were fed lies to manipulate their vote. The majority of people who voted for this will be dead by the time the real effects are known.

Racial abuse on our streets, some complete fuckpuppet in Brussels addressing the MEPs and practically goading them to hate us and make this all worse, we don't even have enough trade negotiators in Whitehall to bring this about in the time frame we have, a resigned prime minister with no one around to take his place, Labour party in tatters, the Brexiters now admitting they don't have a plan for HOW we do this and what happens next and apparently the only two major figureheads in our "democracy" who wanted this are Nigel Farrage and Boris Johnson.

An idiot who can't brush his hair and a fairly well established racist, fascist lunatic who is the laughing stock of the world.

I believe this will have direct economical and social implications for our country, now, in 100 years and I believe it will have dire consequences for our brothers and sister in Europe - for the peace we have spent 75 years securing and for the way of life we believe in, stand for and that our grandparents fought to secure.

This isn't like a general election that can be overturned in a couple of years if it doesn't work out. This is it. Forever. And we might lose Scotland and Ireland and our Union Jack will be something our children's children only read about like a fantasy story.

I am not a sore loser. I am a caring and patriotic British person who is concerned to the hilt with the fact that every single economist and newspaper and politician of any respect at all, every financial institution, every foreign government, the IMF, the Bank of england.... EVERYONE is telling me there will be dire economic impacts of this, and for the impact I am already seeing, for the fact that the spitting, racial abuse and general attitude of the British public feels a lot like Nazi Germany that the Britain I know and love.

"The poorest and most put upon members of our society have voted to make themselves poorer and more put upon, like turkeys voting for Christmas, because of a campaign run on what has now been revealed to be outright lies".

Which is the worst part of all.

Duped by our own weakness.

I am not saying leaving the EU will be the end of the world or that it was perfect or that we are not better off alone. I think we are, but am not arrogant enough to believe there is no other way.

I am saying we needed a plan in place, a solid government spear-heading a slow and diplomatic process with racism and "immigration" off the fucking table as a complete non issue - where we manage this like adults, like the nation we are, that I am ashamed of right now

Draylon · 28/06/2016 15:22

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wombattoo · 28/06/2016 17:25

Well said Janie but I don't agree we are better off alone

fakenamefornow · 28/06/2016 17:40

I know a couple of leave voters who are delighted by all this though and are dancing around the fire. They new leaving the EU would be hugely damaging for the country but are filled with so much hate and resentment for the UK they wanted this to happen. They are very pleased with their handy work and are looking forward to the break up of the UK next.

originalmavis · 28/06/2016 19:12

And when they have no jobs, their kids can't get a job and prices go up (food, fuel, petrol, cars...)? I hope they will be happy knowing that they were 'right' sleeping in their tent.

That's it. I propose an IQ test for anyone proposing to vote or at the very least a pop quiz about the thing they are voting for as a qualifier

smallfox1980 · 28/06/2016 19:15

Come on Brexiteers don't think rationally, the EU is bad they've been told so for years, Britain is superior to all other European nations remember.

Nationalism is not patriotism, and it makes people do destructive things.

originalmavis · 28/06/2016 20:29

Yup. I'm reading a book set in 1930s Germany. Oh, they loved their country. Very superior. Not foreigners or the disabled mind, but they were good to their mothers.

babybythesea · 28/06/2016 20:52

Well said Janie. Although I don't believe we are better off out.

I would also say this about democracy. We have parliamentary democracy. Which is where we vote in a government to do what they feel is best for the country. There are lots of different ideas about what is best for this country, so you choose the party who shares your view most closely.
Here, they have asked our opinions, but that is all. The majority of MP's do not believe that leaving the EU is best. We elected them to do the best for us and they believe that remaining is best, so therefore they should actually do everything within their power to keep us in. That is how a parliamentary democracy works. As has been said before, mob rule is not democracy. Democracy is far better served by those you chose to put into a position of power listening to the experts and acting according to their advice.

I don't actually believe that this will get us out of this mess but I've found it a useful distinction when debating with leavers.

janieblaye · 28/06/2016 21:49

The economics does not worry me as much as the principled breakdown of the region.

Economics? We might have a disaster for 20 years but we figure it out. We are a proud, strong, industrious people.

I do not want to be in a world where the EU falls apart and the countries go their separate ways. We are not the only country with anti-EU political parties. The U.K., France and Germany are the power houses of Europe. If we pull out I am sure that the EU will soon disintegrate and we will soon see far right governments in at least half a dozen countries – excluding those that Russia does not annex and take back into a new Soviet Union – what Hitler claimed the right to do when he invaded Austria and Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia Putin has already done in Ukraine using a similar justification. I do not want to see my children and grandchildren in uniform and our cities looking like those in Syria and Iraq.

Do not expect to see a powerful NATO army from a group of depressed countries – strong armies come from strong economies and the EU will not be the strong, safe, united place it once was.

things like this change the course of history.

And those harking back to the halycon days of great British rule forget we imposed that by brutal force and aggression. they forget Europe was a bloody battleground, and not the safe place it now is.

Perhaps if 30% of our MEPs had not been UKIP member who did not even show up despite their fat salaries to represent us then we might have had more representation in Europe. We had a large number of seats and a great influence.

I am disgusted by all this.

Can't believe people do not realise how stupid they are or what they have done.

smallfox1980 · 28/06/2016 21:55

PROJECT FEAR.

Also completely unfounded fears.

We might be a disaster for 20 years? Well thats a generation of people who will have a disasterous main part of their life.

Seriously, you need to get a grip, huge leaps of faith are needed to the situation you outline to happen. The projections of economists on leaving are already coming to the fore.