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To urge you to write to your MP today if you wish to remain

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SybilEngineer · 27/06/2016 08:18

The margin by which Leave won is too small to base such a huge decision on. This needs to be debated further especially now it's clear many people based their decision on misrepresentations made by Brexit campaigners on immigration and spending on NHS or made a protest vote.

Johnson is continuing with the myths claiming Britain will still be in Europe. Of course we will be geographically but that's all!

The referendum was advisory and not legally binding. If you want to stay in the EU please email your MP today.

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nagynolonger · 27/06/2016 09:22

I don't think they need much of a platform. If the MP who really want to stay in Europe try to fudge this in some way UKIP will take it up again. Labour is making itself unelectable and the Tories are hated.

Oriunda · 27/06/2016 09:24

Germany held democratic elections in 1932. The party winning the most seats were the National Socialists. We all (or should) know who their party leader was. Turned out really well for everyone. Sometimes, just sometimes, voters get it wrong.

timetobackout · 27/06/2016 09:26

To the remainer if we accepted a negotiated settlement on the lines of the Norway model,involving immigration with perhaps a few caveats and paying into the Eu budget, what about that would be unacceptable to you.

WeekendAway · 27/06/2016 09:27

Did anybody on the leave side ever categorically say that leaving the EU would result in 350 million a week being spent on the NHS or are people basing this 'lie' on the ambiguous non-committal wording of a slogan written on a bus?

hmcAsWas · 27/06/2016 09:27

Thank you Sybil - you've prompted me to do it

OurBlanche · 27/06/2016 09:28

Oh! Godwin

FFS Angry

DailyMailEthicalFail · 27/06/2016 09:28

Oriunda yes, with hindsight, sometimes people are democratically elected who turn out to be evil / unstable / incompetent.

What is the alternative?

For 'the people' to have their leaders chosen for them?
Who does the choosing?

MaidOfStars · 27/06/2016 09:30

To the remainer if we accepted a negotiated settlement on the lines of the Norway model, involving immigration with perhaps a few caveats and paying into the Eu budget, what about that would be unacceptable to you
What caveats?

Otherwise, I'd say 'what's the fucking point?' All this heartache, all this money spent, just to pay more money in membership fees and have no veto.

Muddlingalongalone · 27/06/2016 09:31

BOZO's my MP. Sad Much as his "plan" sounds like remain on our own terms because we're Britain dontcha know, I think he'll be too busy playing cricket & writing articles for the right wing tory press to read my letter.

A4Document · 27/06/2016 09:32
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MaidOfStars · 27/06/2016 09:33

Did anybody on the leave side ever categorically say that leaving the EU would result in 350 million a week being spent on the NHS or are people basing this 'lie' on the ambiguous non-committal wording of a slogan written on a bus?
No. But if you look at things that the ASA, for example, make rulings on, I feel this bit of 'spin' might have been removed as misleading. We already know that some people thoguht it was a done deal.

I saw somewhere that it could have been torn down based on use of the word 'send', which is apparently completely false - we don't 'send' the money.

Lemonlady22 · 27/06/2016 09:34

The margin that remain lost is too small, but they still lost. When you dont win, YOU DONT WIN, and you also dont get another chance to try and win, because that in unfair on the winners who you want to lose. What is the point if you cant agree with the first vote...there is no point at all! Im not writting to my MP because YOU dont agree with what the majority of the voters wanted....yes the majority of voters!

nagynolonger · 27/06/2016 09:35

LOL you don't have to understand anything to vote. You just have to put a cross in a box.

I live in a very Conservative area of the country and I do feel lots of 'anti the present lot'. Not just about the EU either.

WetPaint4 · 27/06/2016 09:35

On what basis does anyone get to decide the margin is too small? Unless there was some sort of margin put in place before the vote that would trigger a second vote, who now gets to make that decision?

We will look a right bunch of muppets if we have a second referendum because it turns out that politicians lie and some people are easily led. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad and cringeworthy.

Showmethewaytogohome · 27/06/2016 09:35

Muddling But that is perfect! I Think BOZO would welcome it. Shall we pop a plan in for him too. I'm sure there is a 'Planning for Dummies' book out there. It could help

timetobackout · 27/06/2016 09:36

Thank you Maid,I knew someone would say that, I won't argue but for me and a lot of others there is a world of difference the effects of which are not apparent a weekend after the vote but may not appear until three or five years down the line.

EveOnline2016 · 27/06/2016 09:37

Showmethewaytogohome nobody knows the 'mess' we are in.

Unless you have seen the paper work that outlines the exit from the EU ( if that happens) then stop with scare tactics.

BeingHuman · 27/06/2016 09:37

Seems people only agree with democracy when it's in there favour.

If the government over turns or doesn't action the people voice they will be a laughing stock among other countries, and it will create more of a divide than is now.

It's daft, I bet if we voted to remain by such a small margin me you'd be more than happy to accept that.

Muddlingalongalone · 27/06/2016 09:37

We cut put post it notes in the forward thinking and strategic planning sectionsGrin

Showmethewaytogohome · 27/06/2016 09:38

Wet And we are not in a mess now?

Lemon it is not about winning or losing - look around. Read the articles. We have no plan to get out of this mess. We have all been conned

Wdigin2this · 27/06/2016 09:39

This is a democratic system, there was no margin clause, (although I think there should have been, and I voted out) so there no going back.....it is what it is! So, going forward with positivity is the only way to build a better Britain!

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 27/06/2016 09:40

Some Leave voters appear not to understand how the British democracy they love so much works Hmm

We elect our MPs to represent the interests of their constituents. If it's in the interests of their constituents to remain, then that's what they should be fighting for.

Do you think Nicola Sturgeon is being undemocratic by trying to keep Scotland in the EU?

Also, we didn't vote for anything. We were asked if we wanted the stauts quo to change and we said 'yes'. As you can see on MN alone, people had a wide variety of views on what the future would look like instead, and the Leave campaign sure as hell didn't offer any vision. Except for the riding unicorns and shitting rainbows.

So there is now an opportunity to help shape the future of our country, and, yes, writing to your MP is one way to do that. Maybe you feel the Norway model would be the least worst option, so say that. If you voted on the grounds of immigration, the Norway model gives you nothing because it keeps free movement of people, so say that.

OurBlanche · 27/06/2016 09:42

Some Leave voters appear not to understand how the British democracy they love so much works All of which applies to some Remain voters... why make it partisan/separatist?

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 27/06/2016 09:42

WeekendAway HTH

To urge you to write to your MP today if you wish to remain
GraceGrape · 27/06/2016 09:43

Remain or Leave, writing to your MP to encourage them to inform their electorate what their plan is with regard to how we proceed now and how they plan to explain this to their electorate would be a good plan. I believe MPs have a responsibility to keep their constituents informed. Mine popped up on Thursday to announce she was voting leave but failed to elaborate on her reasons why.

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