Who do YOU blame for this?

[Crunchymum]

Do you lay the blame completely with DC for this? Afterall he agreed to the referendum in the first place in order to be re-elected.

Do you blame the people behind the lies of the Brexit campaign? BoJo and Gove et al

Do you blame Corbyn and his lukewarm campaign?

Do you blame the non voters or those who voted and now wish they could change their vote?

Do you blame those who voted leave and still refuse to acknowledge they have been mislead?

Do you blame yourself for not reaching out to more people and making sure they knew how important this vote was and how there was no going back?

Are all of the above to blame to a degree?

Can you step in an run the UK this week? That's the first lot of fucking sense I've heard in over a month....

Cameron for holding an unnecessary referendum and the people voted Leave without really knowing what they were voting for, and yes they were some of them. I get that loads voted for it because they believe it is right, but when folk are googling exactly what the EU is after already voting to leave it, that's just ridiculous.

The media.

DC for holding a referendum in these times

The Leave campaign for lying.

Great post MrsLupo

The Tory party in general, for not sorting this out internally.

Britain first for spending so much time making their fucking odious message palatable to the masses.

I blame thatcher, Blair and most of all Cameron.

Thatcher destroyed and stamped all over the industrial and manufacturing jobs and killed social housing destroying communities and leaving capable hard working people to rot in the dole.

Blair ignored every chance to sort out these problems and postured around being a world leader committing war crimes. He 'fixed' the issues by throwing money at people and encouraging immigration until the money ran out.

Cameron has treated the whole thing like a bit of university debating society posturing to win s pointless point over his rival. He should not have glibly promised the referendum without thinking very carefully about what the deal should look like beforehand and what would happen if he failed.

I just think it is such a shame that in a great many ways this vote is nothing to do with the EU at all, it is rather than successive governments have totally fucked people over and treated it as s game. I'm not surprised they're angry, I just expect them to be much much angrier if it gets significantly worse and that is scary.

There is no blame... A vote occurred people made a choice

Mrs Lupo, I love you.

Cameron. Pure and simple.

If there is any it lies with John major for not letting the public decide on the signing of the maastricht treaty in 92 that agreed to further political union (ie a step away from European community - which people signed up to in the 70's)

Let's not forget every left wing politician who failed to grasp how important an issue immigration actually is, and dismissed their core voters as racist.

Mrs Cookiemonster

The promises re spending on the NHS went further than the leaflet. See photos in metro.co.uk/2016/06/26/now-iain-duncan-smith-has-made-u-turn-on-350m-for-the-nhs-5967402/

"Lets give our NHS the £350 million the EU takes each week" is fairly clearcut and now shown to be a massive lie

DC: using the country (and its prosperity) as a pawn in his game to shut up the UKIP tendency in his party.
Lies told by Brexit, especially the £350m - not setting it in context of the investment and rebate we get, and of our economy as a whole (0.5%, i.e half a percent, of income), and the free movement business. Plus cynical harnessing of SOME voters with dodgy views
Pathetic complacency of Remain. Failing to spell out the actual economic benefits of the EU, to the poorest as well as the monied.
All politicians, but especially the tories of late, who have left the working class disenfranchised for a generation
The Remainers who have slung insults at Leave voters , way to put a stop to any kind of sympathetic hearing, people! It started before the vote, and has fuelled the idea that remain is a posh nobs choice, and Leave is the People's revolt. Fuelled the divisiveness of the referendum and in our society. In the same way that some Leave campaigns did over immigration.
Corbyn for a lukewarm position on EU anyway. And not being leader and statesmanlike. Not offering a remain vision that would finally start to address the needs of the least advantaged. Not learning from the last experience of Labour at the polls. Not providing the thing people hoped for when he got in as a result of a People's Revolt.

Agree with MrsLupo, too.

MorrisZapp - i

If immigration was such a problem, how come there was such a leave vote in places like Ebbw Vale where immigration is almost nonexistent? Its industrial decline and failure to reinvest by primarily right wing governments (and misplaced rose-tinted nostalgia for a Britain that has not existed for 50 years) is the cause; even if people use immigration as a useful distraction

Also please explain the plethora of race hate crimes being reported all over the country which directly reference voting leave? Dog-whistle politics by primarily right wing politicians is a dangerous tactic

Leave voters who didn't research properly and now regret their vote. Bit too fucking late now, isn't it?

Corbyn for his shite campaign.

All the stupid Britain First arseholes who are now launching hate campaigns against immigrants in their area and calling for repatriation.

Boris Johnson for being a spunk trumpet.

Anyone who thinks Nigel Farage is "an alright geeza".

David Cameron for putting this stupid referendum to the public in the first place.

The baby boomers and their "I'm Alright Jack" mentality.

People in my age group who didn't get up and vote but are happy to complain/celebrate now.

Most of Wales.

I blame Queen Victoria, the Church, Henry the 8th and Cromwell. Only kidding a little.

The UK has a long history of being suspicious of foreigners and intellectuals, reliance on ignorance, lack of attention to well-rounded education, and a nasty kowtowing to rich people and royalty. Keeping poor people uneducated has been going on since Scottish poor learned to read and English poor didn't - hundreds of years ago.

This is the tiny tip of a very large boil and the boil has now been taken over by power-hungry, self-interested public schoolboys like it's an intellectual exercise. We'd handed all the power in the UK to wankers. But it's not the referendum that's done that.

No-one, least of all Labour, is interested in an engaged, educated, reading working class. Which could have stopped all this bullshit.

Great post from Mrs Lupo.

This clusterfuck has been a long time coming though. Cameron isn't the first PM to get scuppered by Europe, and the roots of Leaver discontent go back decades. We are all going to have to reap what our political classes have been sowing for years.

Fuck, I'm beginning to sound like claig

I blame Tony Blair & Gordon Brown.

mrslupo I was saying this to my dh earlier, but in nowhere near as wonderful terms as you've put it.

I really wish we had this referendum based on a plan of how we'd exit. Or at least be given a two stage of should we look at it followed by OK, here's the plan, shall we do it? Obviously it wouldn't be as simple as that in reality but at least we wouldn't all be here lost.

I blame Brussels, if they hadn't been so autocratic and unbending in their ruling of Europe, if they had been open to DCs (as much as I hate him) plea for renegotiations then it wouldn't have come to this. Europe forced us out. We put a lot of money into Europe and people are using food banks. As much as the remain campaign try and make this about racism which makes a good sound bite, it's far more complex than that. People just had enough.

Boris and Farage aren't meant to have an exit plan BTW, that comes down to the government. As DC can't bring himself to admit he was wrong it'll be up to the next PM to take us through the exit.

EU could have realised they need to change their tune and reform. They may well do that now but they were not going to do it before Iast Thursday.

First and foremost I blame the voters - the ones who have changed their minds since because suddenly it dawned on them that the leave campaigners lied, the ones who seemed to not understand that you leave was not a protest vote or that every individual vote would count in a referendum ('I'm in Scotland, my vote didn't count since we voted in'), and the ones who abstained because they weren't sure which way to vote.

A certain amount of blame has to ride on David Cameron and the tories at large for even offering up the campaign promise of a referendum, but in their defence they never expected to win a majority and actually have to go through with it, and even then they expected the populace to at least LISTEN to fact and sense instead of decrying experts as pointless.

Finally, I blame the government in general, every single party, for not recognising how disenfranchised the poorer populations of England have felt after years of being not being listened to or cared about by career politicians.