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This is what the leave vote has validated

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SocksRock · 25/06/2016 22:33

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I voted remain. I'm ashamed of brin British right now.

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AdultingIsNotWhatIExpected · 25/06/2016 23:58

p33kab00 sounds like an absolutely horrible working environment right now Sad

BuunyChops · 25/06/2016 23:58

Was this terrible shit bubbling under the surface the whole time?

yes
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Thing is you're only seeing it now; 'they' feel it's ok to be open about it

I'm white, and Irish; an economic immigrant.

As Irish I've been spat on in the street.

Men twice my weight have sized up to me and threatened to kick the shit out of me (prefered them to the ones that threatened much worse)

At least I had the option of keeping my head down and mouth shut.

DN who's parents/grandparents/great grandparents were born in Britain in fact all of them were born in a 15 mile radius of where we live right now, was told to fuck off home today.

He can't keep his head down/mouth shut; his skin colour stops that.

My 22 year old 6'6 DN is scared, not about his economic future; but about the safety of his Mum; she got shouted at in the street today too

Know the worst of it; we live in an area that voted Remain.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I've had been trying to not worry too much; I've been a stanch supporter of the NHS for years (after all they recruited me from Ireland). So my focus was in this was what was best for the NHS; and knew Leave was a fucker for the NHS.

But this.........

All those who were putting on the polite facade are now feeling free to say how they really feel; because they think everyone else feels the same but just haven't said it till now

cheeseandcrackers77 · 26/06/2016 00:03

Julicoolibar excuse you. How dare you say I keep the company of racists just because I voted leave. By your way of thinking all those people who voted Tony Blair back in 1997 keep the same company as a war criminal then.

p33kab00 · 26/06/2016 00:09

Friday was horrible tbh Adulting. I'm British but I'm mixed race. I speak three other languages fluently and two others at a basic level. I've already been asked in the past by a staff member to only speak English, even if I'm speaking to native speakers of those languages but the headteacher quashed that, much to people's annoyance. (And I'd like to point out that I'm talking about a quick chat in passing in the corridor, not an extensive conversation that could exclude others during lunch or something.) It saddens me that people hold the view that "We're in England so we should only hear English." Confused

I think this is going to be a very divisive issue for our school.

RiceCrispieTreats · 26/06/2016 00:18

Was this terrible shit bubbling under the surface the whole time?

Yes.

Just look at Daily Mail headlines, they're full of contempt for furriners. It's such an enabling environment for racism.

Question is: what can be done about it?

smallfox1980 · 26/06/2016 00:22

Oh god Adorabell.

See when you try to defend yourself by saying that the remain camp are tarring you all with the same brush.

Yeah you've just let your self down there.

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 26/06/2016 00:23

As to the "warm welcome" abroad, mama and adora ( and I know you were both being sarcastic ;-) if it's owt like what I overheard on the U-bahn on Friday, when I had the temerity to be speaking English with my kids, there won't be one....

Fuzzywuzzywasabear · 26/06/2016 00:28

This is horrible I feel so sick right now, dh is Asian British and I've had to tell him to be more careful when he's out and about because there are some awful people out there that now feel justified in their views.

I'm also pregnant and so scared for the future of this country and the society that our child will grow up in Sad

I'm ashamed to be British the last few days.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 00:28

That kind of revolting behaviour is most certainly NOT 'validated' by the referendum result.

It isn't valid, 'justified', approved or encouraged by the result, by the prevailing weather conditions, by anyone's mood or anything else. It's just not okay.

Britain First and the vile minority might think they can take advantage but they can't and they can't because Brits won't let them.

Britain is a fully integrated, enlightened multicultural society and this kind of shit just won't be stood for. Officially or by passers by.

OP it would really help if you and people like you would stop misdirecting blame away from the racist scum onto (largely non-racist) Out voters. It's really irresponsible and it doesn't help.

BabooshkaKate · 26/06/2016 00:30

Reading that I am crying because I remember how shit and scary it was for me at school to face almost daily verbal abuse and calls to 'go home' and to think that these kids are feeling the same way now in 20fucking16 is despicable.

JudyCoolibar · 26/06/2016 00:32

No, the referendum result doesn't validate that behaviour in the eyes of normal decent people, but that's irrelevant. It validates it in the eyes of racist scum, which is why they feel they can behave this way openly. If Leave voters didn't think this would happen if their votes prevailed, then, yet again, they just weren't thinking.

p33kab00 · 26/06/2016 00:33

Sadly Fuzzy I think you're right to be worried... my husband was told by someone who walked into his workplace that he was voting out "to get the fucking P*kis out." My dh was stunned into silence... and that takes a lot. Confused

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 00:33

I don't think it was OP saying that the Leave vote validated this behaviour; it is the racists who are saying that. OP was simply spelling that fact out.

Yes she was. It's in the title right up there. Read it.

Sorry, Leave voters, but that's the company you chose to keep. Live with the consequences of the decisions you take and stop acting all injured about it or pretending those consequences don't exist.

Piss right off. "Company you choose to keep" is a bollocks argument. I've never kept company with a racist in my life. It's the other way around. The racist right are a minority within the out vote.

I keep multi-national, multi-racial company, even within my own family and some of those friends and relatives (of various origins) also voted out. It is NOT OKAY for you to sling unfounded smears around.

AdoraBell · 26/06/2016 00:34

Oh I know that Kimmy we had the same in Chile, and I remember many years ago speaking to a wonen from Austria who had left Austria because of what her neighbours were saying about her husband. He didn't know but they were openly addressing him with the N word while smiling. So they moved to London. We lost touch so I don't know if they are still there.

JudyCoolibar · 26/06/2016 00:35

cheeseandcrackers, no-one who voted Labour in 1997 had any reason whatsoever to know that the consequence would be the Iraq War six years later. Anyone with half a brain could work out that the consequence within a day of voting leave would be for racist thugs to claim that the victory validated them. You need to accept the consequences of your actions.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 00:36

It validates it in the eyes of racist scum, which is why they feel they can behave this way openly.

I don't give a SHIT what goes on in the eyes and mulfunctioning brains of racist scum.

There are more of us than there of them and they WILL NOT win.

This disgusting spate of behaviour needs stamping on. It needs stamping on fast and we can do it.

All the more reason to stop the bickering and backbiting amongst ourselves about who voted which way and why and get on with showing who we are.

smallfox1980 · 26/06/2016 00:39

Agreed Judy.

Those who voted leave will need to accept the consequences of their actions for a long time.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 00:42

Maybe we need to revive 'ride with me'.

'Ride with me' 'Walk with me' 'Nobody is leaving' t-shirts. Something.

There aren't enough Britain First arseholes for them to be allowed to get away with thinking that they can pull this shit.

Ouriana · 26/06/2016 00:42

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JudyCoolibar · 26/06/2016 00:44

My point, Just5mins, is that OP's heading was a shorthand way of saying that a consequence of the leave vote was that racists would claim to be validated. Are you seriously trying to contend that the leave vote had nothing to do with this? No matter how non-racist you are in your personal life, the fact is that it is your vote which these people are using to justify their conduct.

I really am getting so pissed off with Brexiters holding their hands up in horror when the problems repeatedly predicted beforehand come about, and saying "I didn't know, nothing to do with me". I hesitate to go all Godwin and Niemoller on this, but it's so reminiscent of Germany in the 1930s.

Northernlurker · 26/06/2016 00:45

Leave voters bleating about not being racist is getting very tedious. Marine Le Pen and Donald Trump think you did a splendid job guys. Time to own the implications of your vote.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 00:46

My point, Just5mins, is that OP's heading was a shorthand way of saying that a consequence of the leave vote was that racists would claim to be validated.

It was her way of saying that Out voters are responsible for the racists' conduct.

RACISTS are responsible for the racists' conduct, in fact.

No matter how non-racist you are in your personal life, the fact is that it is your vote which these people are using to justify their conduct.

Racists will use anything to justify their conduct.

The question is; What are we going to do about it?

Fuzzywuzzywasabear · 26/06/2016 00:48

just I don't think it's that simple

p33k how horrible for your husband, fortunately dh hasn't been on the receiving end of anything yet

No one is saying all leave voters are racist but there is a move towards the right and with that comes what certain people consider validation of their views

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 00:49

You hang around here and bleat Northern. I think some actual action is needed against the far right.

Kummerspeck · 26/06/2016 00:56

Racists have always been about and have been emboldened by the mistaken idea that the leave vote means others agree with them. That is awful.

I do think however racism is also being encouraged by the hysteria and panic whipped up and perpetuated by Remain voters who do not want to accept a democratic decision. I have read several posts about children crying at school, afraid they will be sent away but it appears that teachers and other adults would sooner post it to FB than reassure them that there have been statements that people currently here will not have to go anywhere. They are happy to let that distress continue to further their own agenda

Shame on all racists and anyone that encourages them from either side