Lib Dems pledging to ignore brexit vote

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Would they stand a chance? Interesting. DC got in with 11m votes, Tim Farron could have 16m on his side.

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-result-lib-dems-remain-liberal-democrats-live-policy-stay-leave-a7103186.html%3famp?client=safari#

lovely maybe in Westmorland, but not visible where I live and work. And he was nowhere to be seen on the campaign trail, where I thought many heads would join together to form one voice.

Corbyn never believed in remain and Farron is just making the most of the mood. His was the voice on 5live on Friday morning that pissed me off the most, even more than Farage, because I forgot that the Lib Dems even existed during the campaign.

The was prophetic Red. You would have thought Nick Clegg wrote that yesterday not on Wednesday.

They can't reverse it.

Once gone, we're gone.

But they can pledge to approach the EU with the aim of starting re-entry talks. These can take years. And we simply won't have any of our current opt-outs (or VAT exemptions). And that won't be a vote-winner.

There are no backsies on this one.

All this talk of a new referendum and a new government ignoring brexit are forgetting one thing. You're forgetting the EU itself. They can make things very difficult for us and they have taken a hit by our vote. Do you really think they're going to just sit back and say "oh yeah, you can stay, no worries." ???

Red that article is chilling on the basis of being so accurate in the aftermath.

If people think the Lib Dems are the answer, we really are asking the wrong question.
Anyway, my MP led the Leave campaign,so I seriously doubt lobbying them to vote the referendum down in parliament is going to have am effect!

Red that article is chilling on the basis of being so accurate in the aftermath

The Lib Dems got next to no press coverage.
Everyone was screaming about the lack of honesty going on during campaigning - it was all focused on Cameron scaremongering and Corbyn being luke warm.

And we have people screaming and say that no one told them the truth of what was likely to happen. Or say that the fall out is being deliberately engineered by the Remain camp.

Except Clegg actually isn't involved in either the Labour or Conservative squabbles. And he doesn't have that much influence over other matters.

Which points the finger right back at the press again...

*The Lib Dems got next to no press coverage"

How did they engineer press coverage? How did they engage with undecided voters? Where was their battle bus? Where was the coalition with Cameron for a united message?

It is incredibly unfair to blame the Lib Dems for not being visible during the campaign, they worked hard for Remain. The fact they were ignored by the media is not their fault.

Also, they don't have the resources to run a national campaign, their tactics are to work local strongholds and concentrate on winnable areas. Not doable in a referendum.

"Where was their battle bus"

I guess it failed to drop out of the magic money tree for some reason?

"Where was their battle bus"

I guess it failed to drop out of the magic money tree for some reason?

This. The war chest was a bit empty after loosing all those deposits last year.

OK, I shouldn't have been sarcastic, but I live in one of the strongest Lib dem areas in the country, (we nearly had a LD MP at one point!) and they could only afford (money and volunteers) to leaflet part of it. Let alone canvass etc.

I'm seriously considering joining. I've voted for them in the past, but switched to labour in the last election. Labour seem to be rudderless now and the lack of impact they made on the remain campaign is a real problem for me.

Can someone who knows more about politics tell me though, what advantage they will gain at a GE by people joining the party now?

Where do I even start with that?

You don't fight a referendum on party lines, you fight it on the issue being debated, and that crosses party lines. I'd love to know the phone calls, emails, meetings that took place between Cameron and Farron to discuss how they could unite over this issue and present a message to both parties.

And if the Lib Dems don't have the resources to put forward a solid message to the public on something as important as this then it doesn't bode well for a shock general election should one happen.

and that crosses party lines

The Lib Dems were out campaigning with Labour and the Conservatives...

No media coverage though.

Where was their battle bus

A battle bus can be a big bright red (German built) thing with an undeliverable promise printed on the side in foot high letters or it can be a car driving someone with clout, say a leader of a political party, to speak at a press conference with local and national journalists invited to present a brilliant speech with rousing delivery.

as this then it doesn't bode well for a shock general election should one happen.

They campaign with feet on the ground in the form of volunteers more than anything.

They are well placed for that, especially with so much discontent about the result motivating that support.

I also don't think a GE is that much of a shock. People have been talking about it as a real possibility for at least two weeks. If Clegg managed to right that article, don't you think there would be a Plan B, like other people are implementing.

Red where were they campaigning?

Red shock as in not planned, not shock as in "shock horror". I do know the difference and I know what I meant.

Do you know, I thought a lot more people would have taken into account that the EU don't want us anymore, they've already made it clear we're to leave ASAP.

I'm also surprised that people would even consider voting for someone who would ignore a democratic vote. I wouldn't trust any party that ignores the voice of the majority (though I do think it's absolutely shit that England gets to decide what happens to Scotland, Ireland and Wales)

The Lib Dems have no money because the massively right wing and reactionary, celebrity driven press DO NOT report on them

Instead they report on UKIP who have one MP and constant Farage reporting and he's an MEP !!!

They want sensationalism, pithy comment, someone drinking beer and causing controversy. Bread and fucking circuses!!!

The measured comment is there but you have to look for it. Whereas fucking Farage is everywhere

Junker has said to go now. Merkel says there's no hurry. I like Merkel. Junker is an arsehole.

Do you know, I thought a lot more people would have taken into account that the EU don't want us anymore, they've already made it clear we're to leave ASAP.

I'm also surprised that people would even consider voting for someone who would ignore a democratic vote. I wouldn't trust any party that ignores the voice of the majority

This. Absolutely. All the going on about a new referendum and saying to ignore the vote. The EU is NOT going to backtrack or ignore.