my dad voted leave and I'm really struggling.

[BrexitentialCrisis]

Today my dad told me to get a grip and to stop worrying because everything will be fine. I reminded him that:

1. We have a government in chaos with an opposition in chaos

1. Jean-Claude junker has indicated that Britain will be presented with very straightened terms once tariffs are negotiated

1. There are serious conversations happening about the break up of the U.K. With independence for Scotland and a unified Ireland.

I'm really struggling to be around him- his arrogance that this is just a blip and that we have made a great decision makes me feel sick. He berated me for signing that petition and called it silly.

He's my dad and I love him dearly but this fucking referendum has driven a huge wedge between us.

[Helmetbymidnight]

Er you are heartbroken about what?

[gunting]

I can see what you mean, OP. I can cope with speaking to any family that are leavers but if they want to be gleefully smug about it then I am not interested.

I know I sound like a drama queen here but I still feel devastated at the result. I feel like when someone dies and the days after where you can't quite believe it's happened and you know you have no power to change anything.

[twelly]

Democracy, one person one vote both entitled to their opionin . I believe discussion and debate is fine but we should respect other people's point of view.

[Helmetbymidnight]

Let me get this straight, you think people voted remain so that they wished people who were not British to feel welcome?

This is what you think?

It gets worse and worse.

[UptownFunk00]

As your views differ so much I'd not talk about it now whilst it's so raw.

Neither will change the others opinion.

[callherwillow]

Oh, Helmet MN has been filled with people stating that very thing.

That they no longer feel welcome as they aren't British, that they voted for a union of people and nationalities, that they believe those who didn't are racist scumbags. I think it's heartbreaking that someone would contemplate not speaking to a family member because of how they voted. It's hardly tolerant and inclusive. But I guess that only matters if the views you want to be tolerant about align themselves with your own views. :)

[MaelstromOfLunacy]

My dad voted leave, I voted remain. We both feel very strongly, but we both voted the way we did as we believed that would bring about the best future for our families and the country as a whole. Despite not agreeing on how to get there, we want the same things, and I respect the fact that he voted with my and my children's best interests at heart, and vice versa.

[MaelstromOfLunacy]

My father in law on the other hand voted leave, and is now smugly trying to ram his point of view down my throat, and I may scream in his face...

[Helmetbymidnight]

You think that people voted remain so they wished people who were not British feel welcome.

No wonder you can't understand how frightened and upset people feel about Brexit. You've got absolutely no idea.

[Girliefriendlikesflowers]

I feel the same way about my brother who voted out this bloody referendum has divided not only a country but family and friends as well.

I just keep thinking 'forgive them - they know not what they have done' its the only way I can get my head round anyone voting out.

[LastGirlOnTheLeft]

My mum and dad were in the Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association with dad a founding member....in the sixties and seventies Catholic people in this country found their vote was almost useless as Protestant businesses had several votes.So mum and dad marched...my mum with my big sisters perched on her hip (they were babies) and dissenters threw stones at them. They hated democracy.

This fools taught me to respect democracy. The power of the vote. That you might not get your way, but you live with it. People on MN need to learn the same thing.

[MrsBlackthorn]

I'm so furious and worried I can't face calling my Leave voting dad yet.

My mum, in particular, is almost certain to find her business utterly destroyed by the effects of the vote, probably very quickly. He knew all this and did it anyway, because "the bus is full of Islams".

[MrsBlackthorn]

So the country - families, friends - is bitterly divided over an issue that few of us gavd two shits about a few months ago. I can't see how it can be healed now.

[callherwillow]

According to numerous posts on here, people voted remain because they are good people. They are people morally superior to those who voted leave, and the reason they are morally superior is because they are not racist and they are open minded and tolerant.

Which is why I can't help but comment on the irony, sorry

[Helmetbymidnight]

No, I'm not getting you.

Being anti-racist doesn't mean you have to like all racists.

That's a bizarre argument.

[callherwillow]

Yes, because 52% of those who voted are racist, absolutely. Very tolerant of you to take the time to consider all their views and reach this conclusion.

[glassgarden]

for fucks sake calm down and get over yourselves, mumsnet has turned into a forum for whiny hysterical drama queens...or maybe it always was

it's toe curling

I couldn't give a fuck what people think about my choice to vote leave but I sure as hell would be embarrassed if anyone knew I posted on this forum full of pathetic wingeing bad losers

[LastGirlOnTheLeft]

People...calm down! It will be fine!

[BrexitentialCrisis]

It's the smugness coming from him that I am finding really wearing. He's all like 'yeah, it'll all be fine - we've taken back control'.

[Helmetbymidnight]

Ok, you just said the remainers did so because they wished people who were not British feel welcome. because they are good people. They are people morally superior to those who voted leave, and the reason they are morally superior is because they are not racist and they are open minded and tolerant. and I am not suppose to reply to that?

Oh the irony.

[UptownFunk00]

Most people voted what they thought was right.

Nobody is going to deliberately vote for something that could screw their country over.

So people may not agree - at least realise that it's not out of malice that someone voted as they did.

The vitriol from both sides is just... Well, just.

[EttaJ]

He is right to say get a grip OP seriously. He chose to vote how he saw fit and you did the same. People have a right to vote how they want and that's democracy. Get over it. He's your father ffs. Are you going to fall out with everyone who has a different opinion to you!?

[callherwillow]

You can reply to what you want to reply to, Helmet, I don't want anyone to stifle their view on my account.

Op, I'm sorry you're finding this hard. I don't know your dad of course, and what he's saying doesn't sound too bad. It's also possible he feels a bit defensive as some people as can be seen from this thread have taken the majority view quite hard.

[MrsBlackthorn]

Nobody is going to deliberately vote for something that could screw their country over.

My dad did. He openly said he didn't care about the consequences, he wanted to have his say on people who look a bit foreign. He said he was worried staying in the EU will mean the country will soon be "full of them".

Not everyone who voted out is a racist. But lots of them are.

And many more voted out to "send a message" and/or rejected the facts in favour of misinformation - very many of these predictions are coming true already.

[gunting]

So the person in Cambridge who is going round posting these through people's doors isn't racist?

It's fucking disgusting. All brexiters can do is moan about the remainers. We are upset and worried, we are allowed that. Perhaps take some of your anger towards us and use it against the pricks who are dragging you down.