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my dad voted leave and I'm really struggling.

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BrexitentialCrisis · 25/06/2016 20:38

Today my dad told me to get a grip and to stop worrying because everything will be fine. I reminded him that:

  1. We have a government in chaos with an opposition in chaos
  1. Jean-Claude junker has indicated that Britain will be presented with very straightened terms once tariffs are negotiated
  1. There are serious conversations happening about the break up of the U.K. With independence for Scotland and a unified Ireland.

I'm really struggling to be around him- his arrogance that this is just a blip and that we have made a great decision makes me feel sick. He berated me for signing that petition and called it silly.

He's my dad and I love him dearly but this fucking referendum has driven a huge wedge between us.

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GirlOutNumbered · 25/06/2016 22:50

Remainers obviously!

firesidechat · 25/06/2016 22:52

It's funny how the people who voted to leave seem to be the ones who are so cool headed about this.

I really think you should get a grip op. I voted remain, as did most of our family, my husband voted to leave. I know why he did it and it has nothing to do with immigration or some jingoistic sentiments. I am fine about it and respect his right to vote how he sees fit. He wasn't a rabid brexiter and is an intelligent, thoughtful man with a degree.

I am honestly disgusted with some of the things I have read today on here from both sides. It's shameful.

GingerCuddleMonsterThe2nd · 25/06/2016 22:58

Me and the other half just had a bit of angry shag about it Grin Maybe Merkel and Boris should.....now you've got the mental image.....sorry, not sorry Grin

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 25/06/2016 23:01

Girl I think we are all sick of the Remainers right now with their doom and gloom! Who wants to be around that shit all the time???ConfusedHmmBrew

Yeahthatwasme · 25/06/2016 23:04

Get a grip. No idea what is the matter with people here.

IT'S A FUCKING DEMOCRACY.

"Ooh I voted Labour, the Conservatives won. It was sooooooo unfair. The Conservatives were misleading. So were the LibDems. I don't agree with them and I don't like it. Let's have a petition for another general election."

And again and again until "the right result" turns up."

You know what you call that? A dictatorship.

52% of people voted out. If you think they are all stupid racists who haven't given the issue any thought, more fool you. But do you know what, even if that were true - that's how a democracy works!! If you don't like it, go and live in North Korea.

LineyReborn · 25/06/2016 23:08

And that kind of political analysis just sums it all up for me, really ^^

KittyLaRoux · 25/06/2016 23:10

I worry when the man who raised you, taught you to be strong, have opinions, conviction and loves you regardless of the choice you made can suddenly become somebody you cannot speak to.......

He did a good job in raising you OP and he hasn't let your vote change how he feels about you. Why should you?

BrexitentialCrisis · 25/06/2016 23:13

Lastgirl I'm sorry that I am all 'doom and gloom' as you have put it. I don't really want to be round people like this either. But the fact is, we have just made a decision about the future of our country that we can never change back again, based on a heap of lies. People tend to be quite gloomy when Really Bad Things Happen. You're sick of the doom and gloom about hardship, identity and crap trade deals now? It is only going to get worse I'm afraid- your own side predicted that.

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Teddy1970 · 25/06/2016 23:19

You have my sympathies OP, my ILs based their leave vote on immigration (and yes, they told me) and everything they blindly read in the sodding Daily Mail..they genuinely believed that as of yesterday, they will transported back to the days of the British Empire and the UK will be the land of milk and honey.. it's actually quite tragic when you think about it.

rookiemere · 25/06/2016 23:22

I'm with you OP.

I went to visit my parents today - I wish I could have left it longer, but DF hasn't been well so I visit them fairly frequently these days. He announced when I came in how happy he was about the referendum, I asked if we could please not discuss it.

All fine until he turned the TV on and started swearing at it because Nicola Sturgeon was on asking for a new Scottish referendum - hardly a surprise because she did say she was going to. Then he started swearing because strangely the EU officials didn't want to let Britain leave on it's own timetable.

Then as he seemed unable to stay off the subject I raised the Northern Ireland issue, as that's where I was born. Apparently not going to result in any violence due to the referendum. Not a chance supposedly.

Nor will DH or I lose our jobs despite me working for a bank and him working on a project to implement EU regulations.

Look at the end of the day he's my DF and I love him, but I feel deeply angry that he has chosen to plunge his own DGS into so much turmoil for no apparent reason. Both DF and DM got to retire in their sixties, they live in a big house, have excellent pensions, enjoy all the benefits of the NHS, it's bewildering to me why he felt being in the EU was such a bad thing for him.

In time I'm sure I'll get over it, but if say either of us does lose our jobs which is a very real possibility it will be hard not to talk about it.

Teddy1970 · 25/06/2016 23:24

I'd just like to add that I do still speak to them! Regardless what I think of their views they're good grandparents to my children.

NickiFury · 25/06/2016 23:25

My parents voted out too, I haven't called them and won't for a while. They're the typical racist Brexiters (I know all aren't like that, but they are) and I can't stomach hearing them rant on at me about how this the right thing and why they did it. I have no time for it.

NickiFury · 25/06/2016 23:45

I think the leavers dismissive and often rather brutal responses to those that are struggling with this is unsurprising really. It's a certain kind of mind set that was required to embrace those ideas and vote that way and for your own mental health it's probably best to not engage where possible.

kormachameleon · 26/06/2016 00:35

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KittyLaRoux · 26/06/2016 00:47

Did you think he was a racist bigot before the 23rd?

You may not like it but he rembers a time before we were in the eu. So he has more experience of life before and life after than you do. Doesn't mean I agree with his vote it just means I respect his right to vote.

My uncle voted out. He has been a racist bigot all the time I have known him. It was no surprise.

Racist bigots don't appear over night. Don't change your life long opinion of somebody just because they didn't vote like you did.

FranHastings · 26/06/2016 01:19

I can't currently being myself to speak to my parents, so I know how you feel OP.

kormachameleon · 26/06/2016 01:26

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EttaJ · 26/06/2016 01:32

It just gets worse. If you were fine with your parents etc before and it's just the way they voted ,i.e. their choice just like you had your choice ,then you are being ridiculous and incredibly childish.

Alisvolatpropiis · 26/06/2016 01:36

The only people I know who voted out are my two grandmothers and a friend in the military. The former are both ignorant to how the EU works I have no respect for their choice, the latter has his own reason which whilst I don't agree with I respect.

TendonQueen · 26/06/2016 01:45

OP can't expect to make someone vote the way she wants. She absolutely can judge them for if she wants to! The further irony is the posters telling her she shouldn't resent it or have bad feelings about it. If her dad had the right to make his own voting choices, so does she about how she responds.

girlinacoma · 26/06/2016 08:20

How shit is it that we are going to leave the eu on the basis of an ill informed electorate, who voted according to their 'gut'??

Oh FFS - I've heard it all now Hmm

firesidechat · 26/06/2016 08:29

I have to say that this whole referendum thing has been a bit of an eye opener. The lack of general and emotional maturity has been astonishing. I only hope people regain their rational thought when the shock wears off.

From a remain voter.

SpaceDinosaur · 26/06/2016 08:34

My Dad voted out too.
He's the only person I know who did.

Unfortunately he is literally the poster child for what Remain campaigners believe a brexiteer to be.
Ill educated
Racist
Xenophobic
Bigoted
Daily Mail is his bible
No independent research, believed anything which suited him.
Poor career choices and awful work ethic mean that he is not earning anything close to what he believes he is "entitled to" and it is of course everyone's fault but his.

My parents are divorced... Have been for a long time. They get on fine enough but my father has always been racist and I have always known that he said things which were wrong.

I have lived my life feeling some degree of sorry for him. I pray that I am nothing like him.

We call and I let him have his spirited rants about how I should vote, "explaining" economics and immigration to me. All that it does it take the wind out of his sales and hopefully stops him vomiting this drivel in public. The phrase "oh dear,that sounds like Daily Mail propaganda" is used a bit by me.
It also affirms to me that I have made the right choices. He knows that he will never sway me (I suppose I do have similarities to him)

You can't talk sense into people who are adamant they are right.
Just sit back and let them reap what they have sewn. And pray that those who are already below the poverty line are granted help in what will be a very difficult few years.

My father doesn't understand what I meant when I said that we would be importing debt and prices would rise because the pound had dropped.

HildurOdegard · 26/06/2016 08:37

OP, you said early on the thread "it's funny how people who voted leave are so cool-headed about it".

I went to bed just before midnight Thursday when defeat had been conceded. I went to bed a little heavy-hearted, but slept.

I did not bang out furious emails, wail and cry along with the sky, demand best of three or divorce anyone.

That's because as a grown-up and a not do special snowflake I understand that other people are allowed to make choices too, even if I think they're wanky ones.

TheFairyCaravan · 26/06/2016 08:57

My parents voted leave. My dad got his information from the Daily Mail. My mother said she didn't care that if voting Leave plunged the country into shit because she wouldn't be around long enough to see it. Her children and grandchildren will but she couldn't care less.

PILs voted Leave, MIL doesn't like the immigrants.

I haven't spoken to them and I won't for a long time.