PETITION FOR A SECOND REFERENDUM - 1 million + signatures already

[GertrudeBelle]

A parliamentary petition has been created calling for a second referendum. As I type, it already has 1,061,466 signatures and the number is growing rapidly so it will have to be taken seriously.

I would urge everyone who is concerned about the consequences of yesterday's result to sign it. It only takes a minute. Get your friends and family to sign too.

Link here:

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

There's also a map showing the location of the signatories. There are some key Remain territories which don't seem to have picked this up - particularly Scotland and Northern Ireland. Please spread the word. Map here:

petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=131215

This is a government petition and an entirely legitimate part of the democratic process. There are many people who are seriously unhappy with the way this was conducted; the petition registers that.

living my DC is severely disabled, mentally and physically.

I am physically disabled.

Osborne and the like have already taken so much from us. anyone forgotten that?

and threatened to cut even more if we left. its not EU, its this government.

maybe the money saved will be out into more help for the disabled (prob not but maybe the health services in general).

'This is a government petition and an entirely legitimate part of the democratic process. There are many people who are seriously unhappy with the way this was conducted; the petition registers that'

Exactly.

what peggyundercrackers and jacksoncannery said.

above all else, I am proud to live in a democracy and this petition implicitly undermines that.

The time for a petition asking that the referedum should need a 70% turnout and a vote of 60%+ was when the Conservatives won the election back over a year ago, when they said they would hold a referendum. It is not the time now.

Personally, I think we should have had a referendum back when the EEC became the EU in the 90s BEFORE we 'joined'.

I will admit to not being entirely confident about what I'm saying here, but....

All those of you saying we can't have a second referendum as its undemocratic, why is it then OK for Scorland to hold another referendum? And if your answer is "because things have changed" then doesn't that also apply to the Leave campaign? Their assertions have now been shown to be entirely false. Help me out here please.

What money saved? It is all over the news, the country's finances are being flushed down the toilet, there won't be any money.

There won't be any more money for anything incl the disabled, I am fully aware of what the government have taken from them. With our country's finances in free fall they have the perfect excuse to take more. I fully expect things to get worse not better for my DS.

I also can't believe that David Lammy MP thinks Parliament should just over-rule the Referedum and stay in the EU. How arrogant is that. Shocking.

Only 37% of eligible voters voted to leave. Many now seem horrified by what is actually happening. Lots of ordinary, nice people voted because they were misled by a pack of lies. It's no wonder so many are asking for another chance now.

And what if two million people, or more, disagree with you? Democracy says that we should all have a voice to be heard.

Chameleon I don't believe Scotland will have a 2nd referendum and even if we do I don't think it should be allowed. sturgeon is an absolute cunt and shouldn't be allowed to run the country. Did you know the Scottish govt, are now getting children to sing songs about the SNPs new named person act to try an indoctrinate them and teach them about how the govt will look after their wellbeing - SNP are a scary bunch and have nothing on the third reich.

I don't get why parliament wouldn't debate the outcome of the referendum?

I agree with this posted on another thread.

So IF this petition was used as the basis of overturning a democratic decision I would want the signers to be gone through with a fine toothcomb.

Chameleon- nothing has changed regarding the leave vote. We don't have another general election because the government doesn't enact everything in their manifesto exactly as written or do everything they talked about/do nothing they didn't talk about in their campaign. Or, even more - because someone NOT elected into that government said something that they later said isn't true.

Scotland- well, personally I think they shouldn't have a referedum until the leave is negotiated. And, when they couldn't prove that the EU would let them in last time (and that they could sustain themselves as an independant country) what makes them think that they could now? Basically, nothing has changed about leaving the EU: last indyref: vote to leave the UK = no EU, vote to stay in UK= EU. Now: vote to leave the UK= no EU, vote to stay in the UK = no EU.

'The time for a petition asking that the referedum should need a 70% turnout and a vote of 60%+ was when the Conservatives won the election back over a year ago, when they said they would hold a referendum. It is not the time now'.

No no we are not to blame for this. Yes it would have been better if this had been insisted on at the time (for all we know it may have been) but we trusted our elected representatives to manage this appropriately in the interests of the country, and avoid a shambles like this. Be honest, did many of us see this coming?

'Personally, I think we should have had a referendum back when the EEC became the EU in the 90s BEFORE we 'joined'.

You are probably right but we are where we are. To come out of the EU having already become a member is going to be a massive upheaval and trauma; we need to understand all the implications and go into it with our eyes open. I don't believe this was the case.

Yikes. Hilarious how some people are dressing this up. To give the "poor thick" people that voted leave another chance to get it right! !!

Am I too late to ask for a relaxing run on television last GE?

If Dave hadn't ever got in we wouldn't be in this mess now! We're all a few years too late asking for a revote.

• revote on the last GE - not what it says up there

A referendum is a glorified opinion poll. And I think I would have less trouble accepting the result if it were not for all the people we're hearing about who admit they're regretting their vote, owing to misinformation from the 'Leave' campaign.

I'll just mention this again as I think it's quite an important point to remember if this petition actually gets anywhere...

I have mentioned this is another thread...

A lot of my eastern European friends on Facebook signing and sharing this petition, tagging family in it who aren't even in the uk etc.

Also a fair few of my nephews friends (all under 15) one even mentioning in his status to 'get signing you only need a random postcode and an email address'

NB:Not sure how true this is, I've never signed one.

You've got some disgruntled people out there who weren't eligible to vote.

So IF this petition was used as the basis of overturning a democratic decision I would want the signers to be gone through with a fine toothcomb

Ohyou the same percentage of those eligible to vote when they voted us in 40 years ago. It has taken this long to have a second referendum. You may be waiting some time.

Hmm, so a massive case of fraud.
Can't say I'm surprised.

you have to put in a uk postcode to sign it and your email address.
It then emails a link for you to confirm.

There's bound to be some fraud but over 2 million? Only needs 100,000 to be considered for a debate.

Yep. Dds friend mentioned sometbing earlier non UK nationals were all signing the petition using postcodes found through search engines. Unfortunately a neighbour came over to ask a favour so I didn't get the full gist of it.

Let them sign it - God forbid anyone question who is signing it they'll be branded a racist as well as poor and thick!

From the BBC website:

The fact that more than one and a half million people have signed a petition calling for a second EU referendum has attracted a lot of attention - but it has zero chance of being enacted.
The main reason is that it is asking for retrospective legislation. It suggests another referendum is required because the winning side got less than 60% of the vote, and there was less than a 75% turnout.
You can have thresholds in referendums.
The 1979 referendum to set up a Scottish parliament failed because a clause was inserted in to the legislation requiring more than 40% of all eligible voters - not just those taking part - to agree to devolution before it took place.
But that clause came in advance - everyone was clear about the rules. You can't simply invent new hurdles if you are on the losing side.
The other reason is that if a petition gets more than 100,000 signatures it can then - with the agreement of a committee of MPs - be debated in Parliament, but there is no legal obligation to act on it.

Exactly this.