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If you're Welsh and voted Leave, Why?

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Cjamm · 25/06/2016 11:09

I was really surprised by the Welsh vote, Wales has really benefited from being in the European Union e.g

Swansea University's new Bay Campus was only possible because of the £40 Million from the European Structural Funds which came from a finance package of £60 million from the European Investment Bank.

The National Waterfront Museum, which includes a gallery, exhibition and library, benefited from £3.7m of EU funds when it was constructed.

5.8m of EU funds was made available for Quadrant Intermodal Transport Centre, led by the City & County of Swansea, which replaced the outdated and rundown bus station.

£9.6m EU funds were invested as part of Neath Port Talbot Regeneration project which included schemes to help make improvements in and around the town centres as well as a purpose built Community Enterprise Centre.

  1. When you voted did you not care/consider about the financial benefits Wales receives from the EU?
  1. Do you think Westminister (that only cares about London/SE) will honestly make up the funds instead?
  1. Was it really immigration and if so why? Was it fear of job loss/overcrowding or was it the refugee issue on the mainland. Do you really believe immigration can be capped/slowed down just because we're leaving the EU?
  1. The EU army is not a legitimate answer, it doesn't exist & it never will!
  1. Are you worried at all? This doesn't mean you regret your choice but are you worried about the economy or the possible breakup of Great Britian? Did you expect that Scotland/N.Ireland might leave because of the vote?
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waitinglistquery · 27/06/2016 08:13

I take it back, it seems accommodation can be taken into account when calculating minimum wage

pickledpears · 27/06/2016 08:18

I'm avoiding these threads now, it's a new week, time to see what the future has in store. I hope it's a better future for everybody. Only time will tell.

This thread has been a refreshing change, being able to debate and disagree without stooping to personal insults.

We all have our own reasons for voting how we did, we may not agree with them but it's important to respect each other's right to vote.

BreakWindandFire · 27/06/2016 08:44

For the couple who asked about how I knew about deductions from wages for housing. I know some people within a local church who had to arrange a blanket drive for the immigrants because they were freezing within the tied accommodation. This was a couple of years ago though.

However a Welsh government report which covered Merthyr immigration did cover problems with salary deductions, tied accommodation and zero hours contracts. It's on P43+ of that report I linked.

That report also says that the 2011 census found that in Merthyr there were 1016 Polish born people, 293 Portuguese, and 194 Filipino (The Filipinos are all employed by the hospital). That's tiny numbers out of a population of about 70,000.

As for pressure on housing, Merthyr is the cheapest place to live in the UK. There are tons of estates and a lot of empty property.

waitinglistquery · 27/06/2016 10:10

I think I hoped it wasn't true, Breakwindandfire because it's so sad to think of immigrant workers being exploited in that way :-(

waitinglistquery · 27/06/2016 10:18

I read the section of that you linked to. Makes pretty depressing reading.

downright · 27/06/2016 10:51

The immigration numbers for Wales are pretty easy to find on the ONS website.

From the 2011 census, for Wales:
Pop. 3,063,456
EU 55,360
Non EU but Europe 4,519

Here

YetAnotherHelenMumsnet · 27/06/2016 11:38

Hi all,

After a great many requests, we're moving the bulk of the referendum-related threads to the new board here.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_

Many of you, understandably, want to discuss this subject at length and in detail - this seems a good way to simultaneously keep AIBU and Chat moving for those who don't wish to participate. Of course, the conversations will still appear in Active.

Thanks, all.

BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts · 27/06/2016 12:33

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