If you're Welsh and voted Leave, Why?

[Cjamm]

I was really surprised by the Welsh vote, Wales has really benefited from being in the European Union e.g

Swansea University's new Bay Campus was only possible because of the £40 Million from the European Structural Funds which came from a finance package of £60 million from the European Investment Bank.

The National Waterfront Museum, which includes a gallery, exhibition and library, benefited from £3.7m of EU funds when it was constructed.

5.8m of EU funds was made available for Quadrant Intermodal Transport Centre, led by the City & County of Swansea, which replaced the outdated and rundown bus station.

£9.6m EU funds were invested as part of Neath Port Talbot Regeneration project which included schemes to help make improvements in and around the town centres as well as a purpose built Community Enterprise Centre.

1. When you voted did you not care/consider about the financial benefits Wales receives from the EU?

1. Do you think Westminister (that only cares about London/SE) will honestly make up the funds instead?

1. Was it really immigration and if so why? Was it fear of job loss/overcrowding or was it the refugee issue on the mainland. Do you really believe immigration can be capped/slowed down just because we're leaving the EU?

1. The EU army is not a legitimate answer, it doesn't exist & it never will!

1. Are you worried at all? This doesn't mean you regret your choice but are you worried about the economy or the possible breakup of Great Britian? Did you expect that Scotland/N.Ireland might leave because of the vote?

Astonished everyone is so down on the Waterfront museum. We've been there twice and I think it's marvellous! The breadth of information and social history of the area is amazing. Can't believe anyone could consider it 'shit'

Thatcher ruined these towns and now the government has been handed to the most right wing factions who will continue her legacy, rolling back any benefit from the eu. while you may not have imagined things could get worse I think you'll find they will.

I honestly don't see how bythesea, the eu is just as out of touch as the establishment. Time will tell.

Because they're thick, racist idiots. Or at least the ones I know who voted to leave are, forever whinging about immigrants 'coming over here stealing all our jobs' whilst sat on their arses all day scrounging off the tax payer. That's the fucking reality around the part of Wales I live, immigrants have enriched this area but the insular pillocks who live here can't see it.

The Eastern Europeans around here are doing the jobs that these people think are beneath them.

I'm Welsh, voted Remain as did my DCs and my parents. Live in a small town destroyed by Thatcher. DF spent years fighting for all the EU grants going after our steelworks closed. He's devastated.

I´ve now done a fair bit of reading Welsh and Yorkshire media and it very much looks like the poor, uneducated and downright stupid voted Leave.
Hence the nightmarish scenario that England and Wales are now ruled by chavs - and don´t Boris Johnson and Farage look likely leaders for them?

Fucking twats

The problem with many in the Valleys is that they keep looking back, excusing today's social issues by blaming Thatcher. That was over 30 years ago! You have had Labour led Councils and Welsh Govt fighting your corner and dragging in EU investment for decades now, yet some of you still sit around waiting for handouts and blaming Maggie.

Finding work is really tough, our family is very well aware of that...but we don't blame some figure of hate dragged out as a convenient, sorry excuse. There are reasons...don't ever let them be excuses.

downright: Lot of fucking twats in Flintshire then!

I am Welsh/live in Wales and I voted to stay, as did my Dh (who isn't Welsh).

We were the only ones in my entire family who voted to stay. The rest were wholly motivated by immigration worries and being part of the EU with the likes of Turkey joining.

We've had some blazing rows, I can't believe how short sighted they've been

Don't tell me finding work is tough. I have a 100 mile round trip to Cardiff to work every day. Takes me nearly four hours every day. One of the problems is that Cardiff is seen as getting all the investment and good quality jobs and the rest of us get call centres if we're lucky. Hence the Cardiff Remain vote.

And I voted Remain and am bitterly disgusted at my compatriots and angry and yet I can see why people voted Leave.

Exactly Minty

There are fuck all immigrants in flintshire. More polish now admittedly, but they all tend to be in work, which is more than you can say for most of the indigenous population.

It's a fear of "them" whilst not having actually met any of "them"

Even my boss who is educated and wealthy and lives in Cardiff voted Leave and I'm pretty sure it's on the basis of immigration since he was at great pains to tell me the population levels in the UK on Wednesday ( nice one BBC by the way). He's even Scottish.

Same where I live Minty and downright very few immigrants and those we have are mostly polish and bloody hard working.

a lot of voters in Wales will be the types who moved there from London for their own racist reasons and that will be reflected in the voting.

No sorry Ada, no one moves to my part of Wales without having family there.

No one. London to Wales? Not that I know of!

I'm really saddened by all the replies, can't believe immigration, something that won't even be changed has caused all this. Can you just imagine when the Leave voters realise that freedom of movement won't be stopped? All the hate & anger has to go somewhere, Boris is absolutely fucked & he knows it.

well I have met a fair few of them round here and they do seem to have fairly dodgy views.

We're all strongly Remain (me, DH & DD1 & DD2 aged 17 if she could have voted - she's so angry she couldn't).

We live in Newport. So much has been funded by the EU here. Newport has just about started to move forward from its shit hole reputation. I fear what will happen now. It seems the Corus deals that may or may not have been on the table are now threatened by Brexit - and Newport is affected by that as well as Port Talbot.

Everyone I speak to is absolutely tamping about the result. It's upsetting.

Chickendrizzle The Waterfront Museum is boring and shit. Those exhibits you have seen the twice you have been there have been there since the place opened. Nothing new and nothing changes unless you call the space thing there recently and that could have been much better. The Swansea Museum is superior, exhibits on World War One and Dylan Thomas have been there recently, very interesting and informative. I can't wait for the Glyn Vivian Art Gallery to open in the autumn.

What Minty said.
Thick as fucking mince.

And it 'll all be someone else's fault when EU funding dries up and they start to feel the cuts. They'll sit on their fat arses with their hands out whining for subsidies from Westminster and blaming Thatcher despite having had decades to sort themselves out in the meantime. I'm born Welsh valleys and lived in Wales all my life. I've been proud to be Welsh until this referendum.

The town I live in was also destroyed by Thatcher. It's seen far better days, but we've had a lot of European investment. Especially on a local sink estate where European money has recently built them a new school, state of the art doctors surgery, community centre and God knows what else. There are whole families down there were not a single adult has ever worked. They leave school, have children very young go on benefits and make no effort to find a job. Then the whole sorry cycle repeats itself. Yet I know for a fact these people will have voted leave, well you know what I can't wait to see them down the job centre Monday morning offering their services....

I am Welsh. I voted remain as did a very large number of my friends. Only two of whom have degrees.

However, the two people who were quite out and proud of voting leave did so because of immigration and the money we send weekly. Neither realised until I pointed it out that we will still have to pay that fuckton of money to remain part of the trade agreement and free movement will still occur as a result of those agreements except now we won't be able to vote on any of the issues affecting those points which we will have to comply with.

I agree on the Waterfront museum. All those rotating exhibits. You can't look properly at anything before it disappears out of sight. Style over content.