To not be able to speak to my near neighbours who voted leave?

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My children's future has been put at stake. Our economy risks ruin. Our relatively -well-off neighbours in a place with nearly full employment and very low recent immigration (local care companies and NHS are desperate for staff) have voted leave. They are only around fifty.

I'm gobsmacked.

The irony is that the small business they are in is affected by the growth of China as an economic powerhouse. So why on earth do they feel that leaving the EU gives them more power? It gives them less.

I am so angry and feel so let down by my country. These people, and people like them ahem destroyed my hopes for a continued peace in Europe.

How on earth am I expected to talk to them on an equal footing, knowing what they have done through their own greed?

Op it's called democracy

JudyCoolibar - who specifically has actually lost their job or business as a direct result of the Brexit vote? I wasn't aware that any such ramifications have actually occurred yet. Furthermore, people who are being targeted for racist abuse is not as a result of what Leavers voted for. Racist abuse is done by the intolerant and the ignorant who are unable to see past race and colour. When you make such sweeping accusations without a shred of anything other than your own mindset to back it up, you come across as being intolerant and judgemental.

Right now, the situation is what it is, and everyone needs to take a deep breath, step back and wait to see what exactly is going to happen next. There are no guidelines in place yet, the pound hasn't collapsed, nobody is being deported, it's all up in air. This is all very much in the hands of the policiticans now, and from talking to people and reading threads such as this one, it appears that emotions are running high. Some people are intent on inflaming the situation, it is up to everyone as an individual to exercise logic, common sense and tolerance whilst we ride out the storm.

"Shut up" "get over it" "suck it up"

Lovely attitudes.

YABU! Warning,sorry this is much longer than intended!!
I and my immigrant husband voted leave. My immigrant brother in law, and several immigrant friends (all now British citizens obviously) and friends living in northern Spain voted Leave. We live in London and are in our early 30s. This is nothing to do with immigrants for us. It is about: paying billions of pounds to be ruled by other countries; TTIP; not being able to trade with the EU without all personal details being shared with the USA for 'security reasons'; increasing house costs (we do not own property since we have lived in several countries and not had the chance to buy yet).
We will be better off, we are the 5th largest economy in the world, we can survive this - nothing will happen for a while, we are still part of he EU until negotiations start. We can make our own laws - all the government need to do is keep all the UK laws, and any EU laws that we want. Its actually a much simpler process than people think. We will NOT need visas to travel to EU, we never have done - do you think Spain, Italy, Portugal and France will risk their much needed (and often British) tourism by implementing visas for Brits to enter those countries? My husband is from a country where the government changed every few months so he is used this sort of thing and said just live our lives as normal and not worry.
Regarding house prices, I understand if you currently have your house on the market and are worried about the price dropping, if you are not planning to sell for a while there is nothing to worry about, however, house prices have been GROSSLY inflated for a long time and would have fallen in the next couple of years anyway, high end property had already fallen in the last several months anyway.
Re: the economy and the falling pound, on the day of the election the pound was over inflated - the dollar reached 1.50 - it hasnt been that good (for brits i mean) since the end of 2014, same with the Euro, (i know this because we keep an eye on dollar and euro as we have family in countries that use those currencies and travelled in 2014 using dollar). We will be free to trade with whomever we like without approval of 27 countries this means we can trade directly with Developing countries which is where most raw materials come from - this is good for us and them, improving both economies.
Commonwealth nationals are unable to live here without a visa and a huge amount of paperwork ,this is unfair! We invaded and stole their countries, yet the people cannot come here freely - does that seem fair?
I have a doctor friend from Cuba (the best place in the world for doctors to train), she is not allowed to work in her profession here without training from scratch, however an EU national can come and work with no additional English tests or training - that is not fair either.

Sorry, didnt mean for this to be so long, i am just tired of people thinking that people who voted Leave are all racists who own their homes and are old! this really is not the case, there are so many reasons to leave. I have friends who voted to remain, we are still friends.

Even in London it was only 60-40 for Remain. It wasn't even 70% who wanted to stay.

I'm interested to know what reaction you all got on the doorstep when you were out canvassing or when you were leafleting or running a street stall. Surely you must have come across some people who disagreed with your point of view?

Did it not occur to any of you for one minute that the majority might vote to leave?

Honestly OP you sound like you want to run your neighbours out of town. If 85% of your street agrees with you maybe you should organize a posse to turn up on their doorstep and tell them they are no longer wanted and should immediately put their house on the market

YANBU - not at all. Those who are playing it down have not yet understood the consequences. Not just for our economy, but for our culture. Racist incidents are taking place all over the country already. Britain's image abroad has been seriously tarnished. People are going to be deported.

One thing to keep in mind though: we have not yet left the EU. There are a huge number of people who voted leave and now regret it. We may never trigger Article 50 which starts the leaving process. Have you signed this? petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

rap12 - most of the immigrants I spoke to were voting Leave, and I voted Leave for pretty much the same reasons as you.

With regard to the Petition it's clear that it is signed by people who voted to Remain and lost, along with a large number of discredited signatures.

Anyway, what is the point? Let's for one moment say there was a second Referendum and this time 52% voted to Remain. The Leavers could then say exactly the same thing - the vote is less than 60% so let's have another Referendum.

Agent Zigzag - you know Nandos will close down too, it is the end of the world!
My daughter came home from secondary school with that one. Would it be such a catastrophe if Nandos did close?? (I should state im a vegetarian! haha) . Perhaps we can get McDonalds and Burger King to close too while they are at it!

Great to hear that! Alot of people on here seem to be remain - although I still havent read most of the comments

Just to say op I wouldn't worry about it. Article 50 has yet to be invoked, Cameron has basically said he won't do it and will leave it to his successor, Johnson and Gove are backing away from it with everything they can muster (BoJo has an article in tomorrow's Telegraph that seems exceptionally pro-Europe for a Leaver) and I'm not sure any of the leading Brexit tories have the appetite to now take on this poison chalice ans commit political suicide. One thing is for certain, politics has never been so interesting!

Perhaps your neighbours don't want to speak to you knowing your views now. Grow up and get on with your life until the country implodes on you!

Perhaps your neighbours don't want to speak to you knowing you voted remain. Grow up and get on with life until the world implodes about you.

NomudNolotus - absolutely! The TTIP is one of the major concerns me and my (immigrant) husband had. Really scary stuff - much scarier than leaving the EU!!

It's amazing that 85% of people voted remain in your street. Maybe some of them didn't want to tell you the truth? All this talk of leave voters being racists and xenophobes is probably the reason why the polls before the result showed a remain win! Ever thought some people might have fibbed about how they voted?

But yeah, YABU. I'm quite worn out with the hyperbole coming from remain voters about how their children's lives are ruined... When they're 4....

Mumontherun - your comment really tickled me!

Haven't read the whole thread, but why would Nando's close? It's South African?!? Lol

YANBU.

The mum next door has been alternately sharing crowing posts on Facebook about the Leave result & sharing whinges from people upset at being called 'racists' & 'thick' (because they are the real victims, obviously).

Her DH is self-employed & not in perfect health - her family now stands to lose so much and she simply can't see that.

Toomuchcoffee I really think you have had too much coffee and it has badly affectted you! Stop drinking it right now! I very much doubt that people (here legally of course) will be deported. What may happen in a few years time, once the negotiations are done, is the UK may limit numbers or do a Turkey style visa where tourists pay upon entering the country and stamp the tourists passport, valid for a period of 3 months. If one wishes to work/live/study here there will be other paperwork to complete - just as in the majority of countries worldwide. We have loads of immigrant friends from all over the place, most of them are not worried, and alot of them voted, or backed, the leave vote. Alot of them were so surprised about how many immigrants are here when they first arrived, including my husband, and we have joked about it. Alot of them feel that British people are treated unfairly by the EU - their words, not mine! But they have settled in well, enjoy living/studying here and I have managed to learn, or part learn, a couple of languages throught them.

Rishaar - exactly, Nandos wont close, but that is the sort of crazy things kids are coming out with. Apparently it was on Facebook, so it must be true. Ha ha

Brexit has been followed avidly here In Sweden. On the Friday evening news they interviewed a renowned Swedish business correspondent in London, outside the houses of parliament. They discussed the leave in great depth but when asked what did she think would happen long term she replied 'These people ran a quarter of the globe from Somerset House before computers, they'll be alright.'

I don't think every Remain voter is 'grieving' by a long chalk. Nor do I believe every leave voter is running about, wrapped in a Union Jack and kicking Polish people.

Most real people may be fairly happy or a bit sad and just aren't experiencing these other hysterical reactions. If some of are, it is because they are whipping each other up into an enjoyable frenzy.

There really is a lot of dreadful misinformation, lies even, doing the rounds and most of it is coming from the losing side.

I feel that if this has sent you into a tailspin of grieving, you can't have had much to grieve about before.

To the OP. If you can't live with those who disagree with you to the extent you describe, you do need to talk to someone about your megalomaniac leanings before they get out of control. You be may be able to access this quickly, if you tell them the extent to which you are suffering with it.

Don't be ashamed of seeking help.

Do you honestly think your life is going to change that much and we are supposed to be a democracy. Everyone is worried about this country and the way it is changing so rapidly, maybe they are right, maybe you are right but fgs don't be so dramatic, if it is such a terrible place to live, why does half the world want to come and live here. get a grip

Yanbu

Louisa. There is nothing hysterical about not wanting a far right government and hatred being legitimised. How dare you to tell the op to 'get help.'