To be apppalled by the remain camp attitude

[Rebecca2014]

On my FB feed, social media, TV we are being berated for voting leave, we are being called racist, thick, uneducated, stupid, poor, peasants, benefit scroungers...the list goes on. There is even an petition now to have another referendum because obviously the leave camp know absolutely nothing.

Boris Johnson was whisked away by the police when he left his house this morning as protesters were ranting at him, banging on his car. How is this democracy? why does it only run one way? Yet you cheer at this act of aggression.

I would understand if the vote was closer but it was not close, leave won by well over a million votes. Why cant you accept the results and look for a way forward together, why have a "me vs them" attitude.

Definitely don't be demure Mitzy just don't call everyone who voted differently to you a racist/bigot/xenophobe/stupid/suggest they shouldn't vote...because that is essentially pretty prejudice/borderline fascist, which is what I am railing against...(not saying you have done this, but I have heard it plenty of times today)

Good alternative lastminute but it wasn't on the ballot paper

It's about finding a way to be respectful while pissed off, tolerant while worried to death, positive while crying over breakfast. I'll get there.

I'm starting to wonder why the Remain camp keeps bringing up immigration - this obsession with race, anyone would think they were closet racists.

The fact that more people voted Leave than voted against the Tories should indicate (to at least some) that there are 'dissenters' in the ranks, those who think that the status quo is not A-OK.

Those with economic concerns should cast their gaze (and minds) upon Iceland and Greece; contrast and compare.

...thick, uneducated, stupid...it was not close, leave won by well over a million votes...

If you don't want to look thick uneducated or stupid then you might want to read up a bit on stats. A 1m vote margin is very close. And it's possible that the people who are sounding off on your FB timeline are actually rather better informed about what's happened and what's going on than you are.

I am surprised that brexiters expect the remain supporters to just pipe down, especially when they have essentially been robbed of money, employment, identity and freedoms.

We all have. As a Remainer I am angry and sad that everyone has been "essentially been robbed of money, employment, identity and freedoms*, including the leavers.

I am sad and angry for us all.

But keep on celebrating by all means Leavers! Though I do really wish someone could be specific about what it is exactly you are all celebrating - how long can you celebrate "gaining control" etc without actually detailing what is is you have gained control over? I'd genuinely love to know.

It's early days lastminute, I don't think it's going to be as bad as we all expect.

You know I really hope you are right MrsC

Me too!

The educated lot that voted remain! You don't seem to have a clue about markets for all your supposed intelligence.

If you don't usually pay any attention to markets then paying attention to them today, you're none the wiser - clearly. Ups and downs all day long, every single day

Falling by *% is always relative to the previous day - that's all. There was speculation and buying and then selling. You all know that, right?

Please, you're not believing it's that they've plummeted to some massively low figure!!

The FTSE is over 6000 FFS- if you've no idea that's good, then that's because you don't know what you're talking about. Talk about easy to scare the horses.

Today:
Finished at: 6,162.97
-175.13 (-2.76%)
Day high
6,338.55
Day low
5,788.74

The FTSE is considered to be poor when it goes down near 5000 - under 5000 is really good time to buy in fact. It was 5800 end of last year time etc. But it wouldn't be Armageddon even at 5000, just a good time to buy - not a brilliant time to cash everything in.... But of course they change again, quite dramatically sometimes on different news. China news has been caused volatility.

Changes for today - then interact to various dates over last five years etc. Money wiped off - relatively speaking - money made too - its a gamble. Didn't know you cared so much about banker types playing around like this:

www.hl.co.uk/shares/stock-market-summary/ftse-100

All this predicted gloom and doom. Amazing how many people have a crystal ball to.look in to the future.

MrsChrisPratt- can you tell me what "take back control" means, or give me one substantial think that will be better for Britwin out of the EU?

Thing and Britain, obviously.

All this predicted gloom and doom. Amazing how many people have a crystal ball to.look in to the future.

The chaos of a 'leave' vote is entirely predictable

My family life will be affected. My job will be affected. My combined pension - half my working life was in the continent - will be affected. I could go on...

But I will hold to MrsChrisPratt's thought that maybe solutions will be created for many people.

A colleague was crying about no longer being 'part of Europe.

Another colleague asked how often she travelled there, what languages she spoke, which of towns with which we are twinned she had visited or hosted visitors from.

Apparently that's irrelevant to 'being part of Europe.'

I thought that was quite an interesting discussion.

Being part of Europe is all about where you've travelled to?

Tell me you're not being serious, please?

Leave

So Sterling didn't drop to a 30 year low?

Right I must have imagined that.

The EU sets pollution limits, safety regulations in products, protection over workers rights, environmental laws, etc. It has fined many countries which deserved to be fined.
Presumably now the UK has to set new standards for everything? I guess so. It just seems HUGE.

Pound started day at 31 year low and is now at 7 year low.

It is volatile as there will be changes etc.

However, if you follow financial news you will also have read that the fact that our interest rates are so low and Carney announced at last Bank Of England statement that they wouldn't go up until at least 2017 - it means it's not as attractive as an investment and investors go elsewhere. that was happening irrespective of Brexit.

Pound is also being affected because it's possible Carney may reduce interest rates - due to Brexit - so makes pound less attractive. But makes exports increse etc.

There is never only one side to a financial story.

Perhaps read up on Italy and Spanish banking crisis, not to mention Greece - all to be dealt with in July by Commission as they've been holding off. Now that really is scary news.

This Eurozone is a gasping wreck in need of reform.

I won't bother coming back to this thread, to your relief, as I know you don't want to hear that there's a way through things and this is how markets work etc. Doesn't fit with the narrative that it isn't the end of the world.

EU was an administrative trading system that got way out of hand.

Europe is still there and we still love it. We just don't have to be part of their political system and have them telling our Judges what to do.

I feel as though the Remain camp are trying to make the Leave people feel as though they have done something wrong and that our opinion doesn't count.

Well it obviously does as 1.4 million extra people agreed (haha)

A girl I know called the Leave people xenophobic assholes on FB! I think that many Leavers are too embarrassed to say what they voted (me too) as they are scared of the backlash.

I'm trying to be upbeat about this, but it.is difficult. I'm married to a first generation immigrant from Europe. Half my family live abroad. I live in Scotland which will probably now vote for independence which I voted against before and am terribly anxious about.

I'm seeing a future with borders between me and most of the people I love. And my job involves working with European funding. I saw thousands, if not tens if of thousands drop away from medical research today which I am fairly sure will cost lives.

I'm trying to be respectful of other people's votes, but Leave has kinda fucked an awful lot of things I cared passionately about and it is hard to write that devastation away like it is a football match.

Chaz - you didn't notice that it increased during the day then, to 7 year low? That's actually not that bad on day of Brexit ...

If you only want to see bad, you can see it. That's why you see racists everywhere.

It was a 31 year low. And some places are refusing to sell currency now. Troubling times. Especially for those of us who do, in fact, travel a lot (for the record, I travel all the time for work, parctically every week, and I hate that aspect of my job, I'd be really happy if I never saw another foreign country other than the USA ever again but that doesn't mean I don't want to be part of Europe and get all the benefits that brings. I just don't like going there much (normally because of the faff at the airports). But then, I don't like going North of London either and I've got no intention of leaving the UK permanently any time soon).

Presumably now the UK has to set new standards for everything? I guess so. It just seems HUGE

One of the first things to go will be the European Human Rights' Act, which Cameron wanted to scrap.