thread for those people gutted by the result

[ohdogoaway]

Few threads started by those happy about this. I have decided to no further rain on their parade - they are entitled to their opinions . BUT anyone who feels otherwise ...welcome

If Scotland votes for independence, and of course stays in the EU, would that mean Scots would need a visa to come to England?

It's like Passport to Pimlico.

What a fricking mess.

Ignorant and/or uneducated. I've seen a lot of ppl swayed very easily with the buzz word 'immigrants'. Friends posting on FB about not knowing which way to vote, barely seconds before someone pipes up with the old 'you must vote leave, because immigration.' And so they go ahead and vote leave.

I come from a poverty-stricken area in the north and was not surprised to hear the majority of ppl there were voting leave. Areas like that are still left in the shallows of the last recession and they have been sold the belief that voting leave will tighten border controls, thus freeing up jobs and benefits for them. I wish the remain campaign would have addressed the immigration issue and explained that a vote for leave means a hell of a lot more than that. Perhaps even explained that if stopping immigration is the only reason for voting then it best not to vote at all.

I too feel ashamed by this decision.

I am devastated. DH voted in but can't understand why I'm so depressed about it. I am so saddened that my children are going to suffer a far less certain future - educationally (e.g. much harder to study abroad now as I did?), financially (e.g. interest rates much higher = no chance of buying a house) and culturally (little island mentality).

Someone who told me that they'd voted out today said (sort of in jest) 'but you've got blonde, white children, you'll be ok" and I had to bite my tongue SO FUCKING HARD. These are the people who voted for this disaster.

Genuinely been crying since I woke up although I knew the result as I didn't go to bed until 5am. DP's company have already lost work and he is now panicking. What do we do about the flat we are in the process of buying?

I feel utterly furious and can't bring myself to speak to my mother who, as daughter of two immigrants, felt it appropriate to vote out.

I feel so so sad that such a negative and nasty campaign won. I am angry that we are leaving the EU, but for me the worst part is the confirmation that so many of my countrymen are so small minded and are willing to put a vague fear of foreigners over their own interests.

I think I may be pretty screwed on a personal level too. I live outside the EU in DH's home country which is not very stable. DH has just left to live and hopefully establish himself in an EU country. I am not sure whether it will be possible for us now to join him if things go tits up here, and as I have been a SAHM for a while and I am unsure of my employment prospects and don't have a spare £70k in the bank to meet the minimum income requirement. If I did manage, I worry that DH and DCs would encounter a lot of xenophobia because DH is the wrong kind of foreign. Ugh.

It sounds melodramatic but I think I am mourning for the country that I thought the UK was. I had no idea that we were so small minded.

So sorry to hear that altered. That must really suck. TBH I always worried that this was what this country actually was beyond metropolitan centres- I don't believe for a second race doesn't come into it in some way for the majority of Leave voters - I wish it did .

Once the results started coming in I had a feeling this might happen, but still hoped it wouldn't. Am worried for dd's future. She was insisting we vote remain (we were going to anyway), they had been discussing it at school.
I wasn't keen on Cameron but Boris, Gove.. shudders at the thought

There's a fucking No Confidence Vote motion been submitted for Jeremy Corbyn. Everything is falling apart. Stupid fucking arsehole cunts

Today and now I bet we see an enormous shift to the right

Fuck. Can't believe it. Am English but not in the UK, I live in the EU. DH works in another EU country. Sometimes he works in London. We need the freedom of movement. I can't bear how complicated life is going to become in the next few years. Endless form filling and beaurocracy, and less opportunity. I'm afraid for my family in the UK - my mother who is vulnerable, my baby nephew who now has a crappy future. This is a sad day.

Stayed awake till 2am watching, got up at 5am to take DP to work.
Went back to bed for a couple of hours to try and sleep.
DP works in the big city, says it's horrid there with financial crash, is wondering if he'll lose his job. We're talking about emigrating to Australia if it comes to it....but we've only just bought our house!
Just feel so desperately sad.
Wondering what the country has got itself in to.
Cannot bring myself to talk to my mother who voted to leave.

For the first time ever I've decided to take advantage of the fact we can have dual nationality. Down to the post office I go to apply for an Irish passport.

These are my people here

I think Corbyn should go tbh, he is not a leader, clearly wasn't behind 'remain' in heart, he was generally weak throughout the campaign.

Someone said upthread that voters had a BGT mentality, well, did anyone see the front page of the Guardian yesterday?? The bloody Beckhams were on the front page - Beckhams to vote Remain - really, the learned Beckhams. like we should be listening to the Beckhams and their views on our country's future.

And Sturgeon has called for a second Scottish Referendum....brilliant.

We voted remain, and I am ashamed that so many people our age (60+) voted according to the scaremongering Daily Mail. My generation have let down their children. I cannot understand how there are so many self serving, greedy racist idiots in the country.

Has anyone else spotted the irony - Scotland voted Remain, which will likely trigger a second Scottish independence referendum. Scotland will most likely vote out. England is predominantly Tory - dyed in the wool in many places - so there's unlikely to be anything other than a Conservative government for a very, very long time. I suspect not what all the people in the Labour heartlands who voted leave thought they were getting....

I'm worried for my children
I'm sad for future generations generally
I'm angry at prejudices and fears overblown to win this
I am torn between wanting to fight to create something good and getting the fuck out of here
I don't recognise my country
I'm angry at the selfless of older generations
I'm scared we are moving to the far right. Minorities and those that need help from the state won't get a chance with this rhetoric. You 'other' one group, you could be next.

Yeah, maybe I was just kidding myself ohdogoaway and it was always like that but I didn't notice. I hope that all the predictions of chaos are wrong, and the markets calm down a bit but I don't think they will.

I really want to know how those who voted leave will feel about the decision in five years' time. I honestly hope that they are happy and content and that all the predictions are wrong. I just don't see how their decision will win them what they were promised by the leave campaign.

I have also heard a lot of concerns that Brexit would have major security implications and would make the UK and the EU less safe from terrorism. I hope that isn't the case. Do any of you know more about why there were concerns about this?

Also, we have any credible political leaders left to guide us through the transition? Boris Johnson is my worst nightmare.

I never in a million years thought that I would be begging Cameron to stay and supporting Scottish independence. What a shitstorm.

Really really wishing I had an Irish granny now.

While I voted remain and gutted its more that over this campaign I've seen an ugly side of Britain and even If we had stayed the damage for me was already done .

gutted. and tearful.

I would support Scottish independence now if it would keep us in Europe, but that's quite a big if.

I don't really see the validity legally of the argument that because Scotland voted differently then it doesn't apply to us. On this basis couldn't London or Cornwall decide the same?

I am absolutely distraught, I can't believe the result despite fearing for the worst.

I was a staunch NO supporter in the Scottish Indy Ref, however I am now of the mindset that if we can arrange another referendum quickly and negotiate with the EU to stay in, I'm quite happy to vote a resounding YES and watch England (& Wales, screw them too) founder. Northern Ireland - you with us?

On another note, this has just popped up on the BBC live feed:

"BBC Monitoring reports from the Kremlin. Presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov hopes that "in the new reality", the UK will realise "the need to build good relations" with Russia.

President Vladimir Putin is expected to comment on the Brexit vote later."

Marvellous.

I'm in Scotland. Gutted with the vote. I was a big yes vote in our independence referendum.
You get used to your vote being meaningless. All votes of this kind are won on the English votes (GE for example) Wales was a smallish leave win. But even if remain had won by the same margain there, England's vote alone is enough to take us out.
Feeling very disenfranchised.
This will have much wider repercussions than just EU. What will happen with the border of NI and Ireland without free movement? I've saw that there have been some calls for them to have their own referendum, who knows. Certainly I think Scotland will have another.