Why are all the twats voting leave?

[HeckyWithTheGoodBear]

Me being one of them probably

I can't find the list I saw earlier, but it's been playing on my mind all day.

It was a list of remain supporters - there was the Bank of England, the IMF, 99% of economists and big businesses, all the non racist newspapers, Steven Hawking, all unions, most councils, Obama etc etc

And a list of brexit supporters. Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, the leader of ISIS, Vicky Pattison out of Geordie Shore

I'm sure I want to leave. I've started, read and engaged in very interesting debates on MN and elsewhere that have led me to this decision. I'm not saying it's clear cut, but I certainly don't think it's an obviously foolish vote to make. So why are the majority of influential and intelligent people voting remain, and the twats of the world voting leave?

Maybe it's just pre match nerves. But I can't help but thinking if all these geniuses reckon remain is the way to go, I've probably got it wrong.

Thoughts?

[Creatureofthenight]

Leave is supported by Donald Trump, the leader of ISIS and the many and various right wing fascist groups in England. If that hasn't turned you off the idea of Brexit, I'm not sure what will.

[GhostofFrankGrimes]

All those people are very rich and will lose out if we leave.

As will ordinary workers, small businesses and home owners.

[EnthusiasmDisturbed]

Mmm I wonder what Jeremy Corbyn shall do once he is in the privacy of the voting booth

Tony Benn would have voted to leave

Yes lots of twats are voting to leave and lots of people who have done their research and questioned why we are in the EU and where it is going and lots of people who are fed up being bottom of the pile.

I heard the editor of The Times on the radio explaining that though people here has lost out when there was an influx of low paid skilled workers (building trade) Germany were actually envious because they had not taken so many skilled works and our economy grew faster and what those people lost they gained as a country was able to spend more money on nhs etc

Why hadn't they been told this before I am sure many are fine knowing this

Really I couldn't believe what I was hearing some people are just so out of touch

[petitpois55]

Ah, Twats voting for Brexit. where to start. There are so many. However there are some particularly awful ones that standd out. . I give you Toby Young, Ian Botham, and Tony Parsons, and drum roll Joan Collins. Yuck..

[NameChanger22]

I think David Cameron and George Osborne are twats but they're voting remain. Does that help balance it a bit?

I'm voting remain. I'm poor, I usually like change and risky stuff and I hate David Cameron so I should maybe be voting leave but it's just too much of a step in the wrong direction for me.

[IamSlavetotheEU]

Frank Field Labour MP VOTE LEAVE FOR THE POOR find compassion, Birkenhead....scarce resources VOTE LEAVE, quietly spoken genuine lovely man. leave:

[ExitPursuedByBear]

I'm a twat and happy to be one.

[namechangingagainagain]

When the referendum was announced I thought I'd vote leave. I think the EU can be wasteful and opaque.

But over the course of the campaign I've come to change my mind. I'm worried about the financial impact. I want to be able to pay my mortgage. I don't want the pound to devalue and jobs to be lost. I don't know much about economics and law but I've read what some of the experts say, and they seem to know what they are talking about.

Plus the list of people wanting to leave vs those for remain has swayed me too.

So I've settled with voting remain. Im going with head over heart really

[BurnTheBlackSuit]

Hecky We all have one vote. The people listed have no more say than you do.

Everyone has an opinion and nothing more. Peoples opinions are based on things that are important to them or have influence on them- from your opinion and my opinion, to all the people on the list. They don't have some secret insight- if they did know some big explosive reason, we would have been told it.

Vote for what YOU believe is best. The referedum is so YOU can have YOUR say.

[Kimononono]

What ever Tony Blair wants to do I'm gonna do differently. The fact Obama got involved (WTF?) and said he might not be intrested in a trade deal with UK if we leave made me sit up and take notice. Why would he be threatening us?

David Beckham in the papers today saying he wants to stay. He doesn't even live here any more and none of this remotely effects him.

[HeckyWithTheGoodBear]

Hecky We all have one vote. The people listed have no more say than you do.

Everyone has an opinion and nothing more. Peoples opinions are based on things that are important to them or have influence on them- from your opinion and my opinion, to all the people on the list. They don't have some secret insight- if they did know some big explosive reason, we would have been told it.

Vote for what YOU believe is best. The referedum is so YOU can have YOUR say.

This has massively resonated with me. It's what I was hoping for from this thread. Thank you.

[RitchyBestingFace]

David Beckham in the papers today saying he wants to stay. He doesn't even live here any more and none of this remotely effects him.

David Beckham lives in London - and he has the right to vote as a British citizen.

[annandale]

No secret insight, no, but some fairly public ones.

But I hope everyone casts their vote feeling ok about it tomorrow

[Alfieisnoisy]

Not all Leave voters are "twats". Most of my family (bar me) voting Leave.
I am the lone Remain voter. All of us have researched our decisions though.

Admittedly lots of knuckle draggers in my area voting Leave as they think it will stop immigration. Would quite like to hear the same folk in a year or two when thy realise that hasn't happened.

[PenelopePitstops]

Anecdotally, the more educated people I know are voting remain. There was a Facebook poll on my local page, made for very interesting reading.
I realise this makes me sound a twat.

[elastamum]

Sorry OP but you have got it wrong. But it's not too late to change your mind.

[Destinysdaughter]

Trump and Yeltsin want us to leave. Peter Stringfellow wants us to remain. Strange bedfellows indeed!

[Kimononono]

Anecdotally, the more educated people I know are voting remain

[hedgehogsarecute]

I’m am undecided. i understand and appreciate the possible short term economic arguments to remain. Which if you’re trying to make ends meet are compelling. But i do think in the longer term (20-30 years) the UK will be grateful it left. So it’s difficult. But I do think that the UK can stand on it’s own two feet quite nicely.

As i stated on another thread, New Zealand had an extremely close economic relationship with the UK in the 1960’s, with Britain taking 65% of NZ's exports. When the UK joined the european economic area in 1973 (now the EU), exports went down to 6%. NZ had to quickly find alternative trading partners and forge new Trade agreements. It didn’t implode and sink. It found new trading partners in the Asia Pacific and elsewhere. It is now fairly wealthy and successful.

It does make me think that being in the EU is intrinsically inward looking, restricting, and puts up barriers to trade with all the countries outside (the rest of the world!).

I don’t think there would be an economic catastrophe if the UK left. The UK is a large powerful country. It can forge it’s own path.

However, markets like certainty. There will be some short term pain with a leave vote. Many people don’t want the short term pain, and i understand that too.

And yes, David Beckham coming out for Remain makes me really want to vote leave.

[Hamishandthefoxes]

NZ had a pretty horrific 20 year adjustment after the UK joined the EU. It has just about got over the brain drain but it would be quite a change in the remit of the welfare state for eg for the UK to go to where NZ is at the moment.

I'm actually going to be fine whatever, but I'd prefer not to inflict that painful adjustment on the people who can least afford it. I'm remain.

[RitchyBestingFace]

Anecdotally, the more educated people I know are voting remain

Me too. The anti-intellectualism of the Leave campaign turns my stomach.

If a celebrity is the reason you decide your vote - whether negatively or positively - then you're not very well-informed.

I love Dame Joan and can't abide Clarkson, doesn't make any difference to how I'm going to vote.

[AnnaForbes]

Twats on both sides. Abdul Hamza came out for Remain today apparently

Vote with your instinct, for me that is a leave vote, others will be equally committed to Remain. No need for either side to slag off their supporters, is not a popularity contest.

[LastGirlOnTheLeft]

A change is as good as a rest, so I am voting Leave. Having said that, if we vote to stay I won't be crying about it.

[RortyCrankle]

Why are all the wankers voting Remain?

[Limer]

The chattering classes want to Remain, because they love the wealth that cheap EU labour provides.

Everyone else (the twats?) wants to Leave, to rid this country of the dead weight of the EU and its endless gravy train.