Anyone else really worried now?

[MrsBlackthorn]

My work has started quietly drawing up contingency plans for if Brexit happens. Same at DH's work. Could mean lots of jobs moving to Germany and Ireland at both our firms. We're already seeing far fewer people investing or spending money.

I'm bloody terrified. Could lose my job. House could end up in negative equity. And for what?

I don't even think it's "project fear" from the government anymore... News today showed investors are taking money out of the UK faster than anytime since the crash. People with "skin in the game" voting with their money.

I understand that for lots of people the EU referendum isn't about money. however, because of a lot of it leaving, stopping coming in, or just simply being worth less... Well that leaves us screwed for a very long time. Fewer jobs. Less tax money coming in - so less money for the NHS and so on. So even if we 'take back control', of what exactly. what will we be 'in control' of?

I'm really worried about "Leave" happening and me and my family being utterly f*ed in a few months time as a result. Has the country lost its mind?

Anyone else worried about where this leaves us?

It was on Question Time

Why else have so many turned away from labour and voted for ukip

The whole reason Cameron made a manifesto pledge on the referendum was because the Tories were scared of losing votes to UKIP.

Of course

But Labour have lost voters to UKIP far more than the Tories have

Shame on Labour they turned their back on voters that didn't fit in their profile

Shame on Labour they turned their back on voters that didn't fit in their profile

I'm not sure what this means. If people think they will have better pay and conditions under Brexit they are going to be disappointed.

Look at the recent news on Sports Direct and BHS. That is the free market at work and sadly, it isn't going anywhere.

Yes but until our elections are done fairly .....

UKIP got 3.8 million votes and 1 seat

SNP got 1.45 million and got 56 seats

The whole elections are unfair and do not show true feelings of public

jellied funnily enough the supposedly non democractic EU reflects those numbers .. through the proportional representation in the European Parliament

many have struggling now zero hours, top up benefits to make ends meet

Do you think those who have struggled for years are that worried by the threat of a few years more of struggling to get by when nothing has changed or for many it's got harder and being in the EU hasn't improved their lives. There is hope that something could change becuause there isn't while we are in the EU it will stay the same

If being in the EU is good god for them why are they not benefitting from us being the fifth wealthiest country in the world, why are services at breaking point and why still are they struggling to get by

enthusiasm generally due to UK government policy.. and it will if anything get worse after BREXIT

A half quote from Boris wasn't it about the ongoing argument Black Cabs v Uber

It's crap now for so many it could get worse but then on the other hand it could get better

It's just hasn't for so many people got better why ? I though the EU is there for is all

because neo liberalism and globalisation creates wealth for the few and hardship for the many. Under brexit neo liberalism is going nowhere.

In the UK house prices are sky high because Thatcher turned housing into a commodity. Council houses were not replaced. Then we had the rise of BTL. All created because of neo liberal free market dogma.

Privatisation of public services is also free market dogma.

The race to the bottom on wages is because of neo liberalism. Now we have millions using food backs. Austerity is an ideological choice from the party of Johnson and Gove. Tax credits are a subsidy to corporations.

None of the above are the fault of the EU.

Both Gove and IDS voted to cut ESA. If I thought Brexit would lead to a socialist utopia I'd be voting out. But it won't.

But the EU hasn't protected people from any of this has it

Boris and Gove can be voted out why would they strip away workers rights and loose many many voters

A socialist utopia we are not a socialist country never have been never will be

Boris and Gove can be voted out why would they strip away workers rights and loose many many voters

Because of the big business bankrolling them and the many voters who don't give a shit about workers' rights?

enthusiasm the EU has guaranteed certain aspects.. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/06/leave-campaign-workers-rights-brexiters-british

"More than 8 million part-time workers in the UK have the same rights as full-time workers. About three-quarters of these are women. It was a European court of justice ruling that helped part-time workers to have the same rights to join occupational pension schemes as their full-time colleagues.

About 13 million women in work are protected from discrimination as a result of equality legislation; 340,000 women receive paid maternity leave each year in the UK. In addition, 1.6 million people on temporary contracts now have the same rights as permanent workers. That’s an awful lot of people protected, and yet the Brexiters scoff at those rights.

The employment minister, Priti Patel, a prominent Tory Brexiter, has called them a burden and would like to halve them. Boris Johnson said it was “very disappointing” that Britain had not made “changes to employment law”, complaining that we “need to weigh in on all that stuff, all that social chapter stuff”.

Cameron’s former adviser Steve Hilton has complained that “membership of the EU brings with it constraints on everything from employment law to family policy”. And when Chris Grayling was asked what European “red tape” he disliked, he referred to health and safety laws...."

I would say some voters

The vast majority of us need workers rights and strip those away to nothing you will loose too many votes the opposition will offer them all back and more

A socialist utopia we are not a socialist country never have been never will be

but Mr Johnson talks about being worried about workers rights and pay under the EU. He also believes money spent on the EU should be used to invest in UK public services! It's abit too Marxist for a Tory!

Yes but until our elections are done fairly ..

UKIP got 3.8 million votes and 1 seat

SNP got 1.45 million and got 56 seats

The whole elections are unfair and do not show true feelings of public

Yes, you're right, our representatives in Parliament much better reflect the will of the voting public in Britain - much more democratic.

We had laws that protected is before joining things have progressed since being in the EU and many of ours are better than some other countries some not as good

Who can say they wouldn't have improved over time without being in the EU

that may be true enthusiasm but to be honest the clear indications from the Tory Leave leadership is that they'd want to 'reduce social regulation' - so things we have now may well not be guaranteed anymore - which they would be as part of the EU

What Tories have never been concerned about workers and investment in public services

That sounds a little like student union talk

Boris has always been a bit of a maverick but the leave campaign is not about him or Gove or Farage

enthusiasm so who do you think will take power after Brexit?

And it's a gaurantee to many by us staying in they will still be struggling to get by as economic advances has passed them by

Boris

No doubt

What Tories have never been concerned about workers and investment in public services

Curtailing trade union rights
council house sell off
assured short hold tenancies
poll tax
privatisation of public services (recently Royal Mail and Probation Service
austerity

If people think they will have better pay and conditions under Brexit they are going to be disappointe

At least they may have a chance at getting a job in the first place. How many jobs are going to foreign born workers?

I disagree with sale of council houses and then the shift to unaccountable Housing Associations , often against the express wishes of tenants.

However I don't think it's quite right to say that is a major cause of house price rises:- cheap credit and Supply and Demand come more to mind.

The Chancellor has said Brexit will cause house prices to drop. I take no notice of him personally but it may be worth looking into for those who rate him. (I'd take his advice on middle aged weight loss though..)