Anyone else really worried now?

[MrsBlackthorn]

My work has started quietly drawing up contingency plans for if Brexit happens. Same at DH's work. Could mean lots of jobs moving to Germany and Ireland at both our firms. We're already seeing far fewer people investing or spending money.

I'm bloody terrified. Could lose my job. House could end up in negative equity. And for what?

I don't even think it's "project fear" from the government anymore... News today showed investors are taking money out of the UK faster than anytime since the crash. People with "skin in the game" voting with their money.

I understand that for lots of people the EU referendum isn't about money. however, because of a lot of it leaving, stopping coming in, or just simply being worth less... Well that leaves us screwed for a very long time. Fewer jobs. Less tax money coming in - so less money for the NHS and so on. So even if we 'take back control', of what exactly. what will we be 'in control' of?

I'm really worried about "Leave" happening and me and my family being utterly f*ed in a few months time as a result. Has the country lost its mind?

Anyone else worried about where this leaves us?

Another - my area is the same and I think it's a massive problem. But lots of we wealthy and people that live in nice areas don't see it.

I would urge them to come to Dagenham , my road there are around 100 houses. Down my street apart from 20 other British families it's all different nationalities.

I'll be branded a racist but come and live where I live. And I would add majority are renting and get their rent paid for by council. One house has 9 people in it non of the adults work they could but they won't!

Immigration is a real problem

Yes , France has said bollocks to it and that's okay isn't it?? We are not allowed to dislike the French because we are British and it isn't very PC. France and Germany have been taken for an almighty ride and now have said enough is enough.

We are not allowed to dislike the French because we are British and it isn't very PC

I have never, ever come across the idea that British people aren't allowed to dislike, or say they dislike, or mock or disparage the French.

another 80percent of scientists disagree with you and are in fact very worried about the impact of Brexit. I think I posted the link on that further up the thread.

Haha jellied indeed I thought taking the puss out of the FR is almost mandatory

Haha. Totally agree with this.

Jellied eels - you won't be surprised to hear there are a fair few landlords who are voting to "remain" .

They don't want the supply of new arrivals into their houses of multiple occupation that they've been enlarging - due to government stipulations that a person needs about six foot for a bedroom to be called a bedroom

The vested interest amongst some remainers goes from the top of the EU, right down to spivvy buy to let types cramming foreign workers into HMO in before they can move on to rent a flat.

"Don't want to lose"

Does not surprise me....

Now we will have loads of landlords on here saying the opposite because unlike many others we are not playing by PC rules

But I'm sick to death with people saying there is no problem,

My sister is loaded lives in a gorgeous village in Cotswolds and she thinks everything is fine and dandy

Unfortunately not living in real world!

Hang on, is criticising landlords non-PC now?

How?

I just read this and thought I would share it
It was tagged to a video of David Cameron talking in House of Commons going on about turkey, Macedonia and Serbia joining EU and giving them our total support and £2m to help them

here's a short list of financial and industrial FUBARs from the EU then,..
Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.
Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.
I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there.
I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.

Well I've just been on a hen do with seven Dutch women and they basically said that anyone would be thick to vote to leave, in s more polite Dutch way. I just nodded my head because I'm really not sure what I'm doing yet.

It's a pretty damning list jelliedeels.

I'm not worried at all. I am hugely encouraged by the polls that put Leave at best 10 points ahead and at worst. neck and neck. This is just confirmation of what I am finding out there in real life.

I am delighted that the British are regaining the confidence in themselves to make their own laws, and restore their sovereignty and self-determination.

I sit and watch the referendum coverage shaking my head in wonder at who would be silly enough to hand power over themselves to a foreign power, in the cause of supposed economic gain.

Economies can and do rise and fall, but democracy and self-determination are priceless.

When you have the ability to make your own laws in the interest of your own country you are far better equipped to face the dangers of the world than giving away that power to an unelected, undemocratic bunch of EU bureaucrats.

I just hope enough people wake up in time and realise that the EU now exists for the benefit of the funders of the Remain campaign - the big banks, the big corporations and hedge funds who successfully lobby for EU laws that favour them and all those academics that the EU handsomely funds to produce reports to say how great the EU is. Sockpuppetting at its finest.

Yes after reading the post about giving away all our assets then treating the UK as a cash cow, I don't get why anyone is in. Plus giving us no say about who comes here.

Yes after reading the post about giving away all our assets then treating the UK as a cash cow, I don't get why anyone is in. Plus giving us no say about who comes here

I don't know why anyone would want to live in a country, or have their children live in a country that was controlled by a foreign power (the EU).

I want to live in a country -

that makes its own laws for the benefits of its own citizens,

that can raise taxes (or not ) on things it choses to, instead of having to plead with an unelected EU bureaucrat to reduce the tax on Tampax,

that can control who comes to live and work here and welcomes those with skills we need from throughout the world, nit limiting itself to self-selecting EU migrants from 27 countries in Europe

that can defend itself instead of having a common foreign policy and defence policy with the EU

that can trade freely with every country in the world instead of being prohibited by the EU from entering into trade deals with global partners, while the EU quarrels amongst itself trying to get a one-size-fits-all trade agreement that all 28 members can support.

If I want those basic elements of sovereignty and self-determination, and as the EU refused to grant them to Cameron, I can only achieve them by voting Leave.

And I would care what 7 Dutch women think because .........

EachandEveryone you were back home at half-ten after a hen night? Is the bride-to-be in her eighties?

7 Dutch women in the UK for a hen weekend - obviously wealthy city-break types (was going to say young, but maybe not if the bride-to-be's tucked up having her cocoa at ten o'clock). So most probably benefiting from cheap EU labour themselves.

In what way? Loving how cheap their cleaners, plumbers, nannies etc. are.

The Dutch I work with are just as keen for their own referendum. They believe that an out vote from the Uk will give them enough impetuous to demand one. (A referendum that is). You have to remember the majority of EU states are refusing to give their populous a voice on this and boy they are even more unhappy with the situation as we are.

Jellied - the hinkley mess is entirely of this govts making.

it's all going to unravel after we leave isnt it

things could be ugly for a while

And control of out armed forces is never going to be passed to Brussels or Germany. That I'm afraid is classic leave scaremongering.

The real security threat we're facing is isolation in a world with a resurgent and aggressive Russia (who has been clearly documented funding anti EU efforts ) and where we need better communication withsecurity forces across Europe to counter terrorism.