How will you vote in the EU referendum-Leave or Stay?

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How will you be voting? Can admin add a poll?

Yes, damn that Recreational Craft Directive which requires boatbuilders to ensure that their vessels are fit for sale and use. Bloody EU red tape.

Because we are incapable of buidling any boats with having an EU directive to tell us how to do it.

Which nicely sums up the entire difference between the

'British' way of doing things - which is we can do anything we want unless it is prohibited to do so and the

'European' way of doing things - which is we must have laws to limit and tell us what we can do.

And the British way is now being overtaken by the European way.

But TTIP will soon come along and the current

British and European ways - which ensure everything you buy is safe to be sold to you

will be overtaken by the

American way - which is anything can be sold / done unless you (the consumer) can proof it is unsafe

Is English your first language, Spring? Serious question.

Anyway, the CBI says that 77% of SMEs back being in the EU and say its beneficial.

The same CBI that wanted us to join the Euro. That would have gone well

Have you not read up on TTIP spring? It seems the American's are having trouble negotiating down European standards, and the French are quite likely to veto it anyway.

Anyway, enough of throwing the chicken entrails to second guess the economic recovery that Brexit will sustain.

This is much more important -

The Tory MEP who helped Cameron negotiate his 'special deal' with the EU s now recommending we LEAVE

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/syed-kamall-mep-leave-eu-david-cameron-renegotiation-a6925241.html

There's a vote of confidence in the EU - not

Oh and as well, the UK has all sorts of saftey standards of its own, complaining about european ones is silly because if you do business with europe, you will have to follow them anyway.

Have you not read up on TTIP spring? It seems the American's are having trouble negotiating down European standards, and the French are quite likely to veto it anyway.

Wow! Inconsistency Klaxon. You've spent weeks saying that TTIP will be forced on us by the US - seems not

Is English your first language, Spring? Serious question

Lol - proving yet again you have no valid response to my well-argued, well-honed recommendation to LEAVE.

Oh and as well, the UK has all sorts of saftey standards of its own, complaining about european ones is silly because if you do business with europe, you will have to follow them anyway.

We also follow international standards. There is no need for the EU to keep replicating standards. That is just unnecessary red tape.

Um no, I've spent weeks saying that TTIP isn't as big a deal as you are making out because of the strong negotiating position the EU has, and that all of the scaremongering the leave campaign have been doing shows a lack of understanding about what has gone on.

Were we to leave the EU and arrange a trade deal with the US we wouldn't have such a strong negotiating position and are far more likely to have the bits forced on us that the EU managed to negate.

Why do you capitalise leave btw?

Why do you capitalise leave btw

Because there is no EU Directive against doing so - yet.

Enjoying the freedom

Freedom from the rules of the English language?

SPRINGING - Thank you for that link to Syed Kamall. I did not realise he was adviser to Cameron on the special deal. I knew Syed quite well, we worked together for a management consultancy. Good guy, we had many Chinese lunches together.

The EU often leads the way on product standards, and hang on, wasn't one of the things you were scared about TTIP for would be having lower American product standards, which all meet World Trade standards.

Britain is the world's 5th largest economy and would no longer be weighed down by the eurozone or countries with weaker economies. I think our negotiating position on leaving the EU would be fine.

The EU often leads the way on product standards

The UK is a leader on product standards. The British Standards Institute (BSI) formed in 1901 was the world's first National Standards Body - that's 91 years before we joined the EU. The BSI Kite Mark was first registered on 12 June 1903.

www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/about-bsi/our-history/

How many times do we have to say it? If we leave the EU we will no longer be the 5th largest economy in the world. We will slip wayyyyy down that list.

You lot keep repeating this 5th biggest economy thing, but the EU if it is negotiating as an economy is the largest in the world, and has 10 of the countries in the world's top 30.

Our position isn't that strong.

the UK has all sorts of saftey standards of its own, complaining about european ones is silly because if you do business with europe, you will have to follow them anyway.

When we send products to other countries around the world, we meet their requirements and they of course need to meet our own standards to export to us. If we leave the EU, the UK will be able to decide for itself which standards it wants to set, instead of being told what they are by the EU. Lobbyists from large corporations have swayed the EU into making regulations which suit themselves rather than smaller businesses.

If we want to export to the EU we will need to comply with EU safety standards. End of story.

Winterbiscuit

Anyone who we mention as being remotely in the LEAVE camp will be rubbished by the other side - just ignore them.

The fact that Cameron's negotiations achieved zero is a reason to LEAVE - the EU has proved itself incapable of reform. Why would it want to ? It may not be heading in the direction that Cameron wants but it is heading in the direction that it wants.

The real trouble for the Tories still start when it becomes crystal clear that Cameron has achieved no 'special deal' with the EU, probably when the ECJ overturns one of his 'special' dispensations. He can square aware the MEPs but he cannot prejudge the ECJ.

The British public having been assured by Dodgy Dave they were voting in the referendum for 'reforms' that were set in stone , will not take kindly to finding out they've been deceived again by a Tory Government .

David Cameron achieved nothing in his "negotiations" because he asked for nothing. He simply wasn't up to the job.

The deal is covered by international law, and not european, therefore is out of the ECJ jurisdiction.