How will you vote in the EU referendum-Leave or Stay?

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How will you be voting? Can admin add a poll?

Of course if the EU does fail it will have an impact on us in much the same way the mortgage crisis in the US brought about our economic crisis.

To clarify, I was referring to the EU failing NOT the countries within continental Europe failing. For exam Germany will be fine outside the EU as would we economically. The failure would be an absolute blessing in disguise for all the Southern states of Europe who are being crucified by the value of the Euro being too strong for their economies.

Of course if the EU does fail it will have an impact on us in much the same way the mortgage crisis in the US brought about our economic crisis

The US housing bubble didn't bring on a crisis in every country in the world. It only brought on a crisis where countries had extremely high levels of debt and scant levels of bank solvency. This was caused by years of the then Labour government borrowing huge amounts of money, practically bringing our country to the brink of bankruptcy which was masking an underlying problem and that problem was we weren't generating enough money for the lifestyle we wanted. So our banking therefore caught a cold because it was mal invested in American debt which was never repayable. Gordon Brown likes to blame it on the USA but the problem lay closer to home.

Hoping for the EU to fail after Brexit is essentially wishing chaos and economic misery on an entire continent full of people. How...pleasant. ??? Not hoping, anticipating.

Hoping for the EU to fail after Brexit is essentially wishing chaos and economic misery on an entire continent full of people

No, I don't believe it is, particularly looking into the longer term. If the EU fails in the near future, and other countries follow Britain's lead, it will prevent a permanent undemocratic superstate .

In particular, anyone who votes "stay" because they think the EU is some generous benefactor compared to the Tories will be rather disappointed. The British voters can elect a different government but this won't be possible in the EU as it removes power further and further from ordinary people and their own nations. The far right is rising in the EU and I don't imagine they have the interests of the least well off at heart.

How arrogant of Team Brexit to think they know what's best for 27 other countries as well as the UK.

It will be pretty crap for the UK if the majority of voters decide we're better off out of the EU and we all end up having to face the economic consequences of that. But it will be shameful if those people's actions actually bring the whole system tumbling down and make things worse for the citizens of those 27 other countries as well.

those people's actions actually bring the whole system tumbling down and make things worse for the citizens of those 27 other countries as well.

I don't think people who back Brexit are doing so because they will enjoy seeing the system tumbling down. We just resent being coerced into an unworkable union and strongly believe we would be better off out. Nothing shameful about it.

But it is pretty shameful to say you hope Brexit spells the beginning of the end for the EU.

If we leave the EU, I hope it thrives without us. In fact, I'm counting on it, because I'll be moving to the continent.

But it is pretty shameful to say you hope Brexit spells the beginning of the end for the EU.

No, it isn't "shameful" to wish for the end of an undemocratic project with its lobbyists and bias towards large corporations, an aim of privatising all public utilities (greedy profiteering again), TTIP plans, sovereign law-replacing, unelected beaurocrats, calls for abolishing the UK’s seat on the UN Security Council, economic failures, tariffs and quotas which impact developing countries negatively.

Buttered I don't see how it can thrive without full political and fiscal union, and I can't see the German taxpayers wearing that one, as they will be constantly be bailing out the southern EU member states.

I think the Visegrad group bear watching, especially the Hungarians and the Poles, as does the situation about to kick off again in Greece, where things are not improving according to a correspondent of mine.

Winterbiscuit, if you want to leave, vote leave. But don't wish it on the citizens on 27 other countries. You don't get to decide what's best for them.

buttered the EU's 27 other countries currently get to say what's best for the UK!

What nonsense. There has to be an element of compromise. Just because the UK has not got its way on 55 occasions in the last 20 years doesn't mean other countries are making our decisions for us. Pooling sovereignty on certain issues involved a certain amount of compromise.

Why should voters in Surrey get to decide on behalf of people in Doncaster? It's the same thing, only on a bigger scale.

This from Buttered is an absolute classic

Winterbiscuit, if you want to leave, vote leave. But don't wish it on the citizens on 27 other countries. You don't get to decide what's best for them

Err, while we're in the EU 27 countries do get to decide what's best for us in the UK.

That is why we want to leave.

buttered the EU's 27 other countries currently get to say what's best for the UK!

Sorry Winter- you beat me to it.

What nonsense. There has to be an element of compromise.

Sovereign nations only compromise when it suits them to do so. The EU forces us to submit - not even comprise, submit to its demands.

Just because the UK has not got its way on 55 occasions in the last 20 years doesn't mean other countries are making our decisions for us.

In other words, just because your elected Government has been over-ruled 55 times by an unelected undemocratic superstate that you cannot vote out of office, it doesn't mean the Uk is in in full control of its own destiny.
Which of course is EUrophile nonsense.

Pooling sovereignty on certain issues involved a certain amount of compromise.

Pooling sovereignty voluntarily to the benefit of your country and its citizens is very different to submitting yourself to EU law, directives and regulations. Countries that allow that are no longer sovereign.

Why should voters in Surrey get to decide on behalf of people in Doncaster? It's the same thing, only on a bigger scale.

That is a calumny. It is not even worth starting to explain how wrong that it is.

the EU's 27 other countries currently get to say what's best for the UK!

And the rest of the UK gets to say what's best for Pembrokeshire... that's how representative democracy works

Hoping for the EU to fail after Brexit is essentially wishing chaos and economic misery on an entire continent full of people

Only if you buy into the idea that the current discredited system is the only possible way of doing things

the EU's 27 other countries currently get to say what's best for the UK!

And the rest of the UK gets to say what's best for Pembrokeshire... that's how representative democracy works

You don't understand how representative democracy works. If you did you would acknowedge that the EU has a democratic deficit.

Link to short piece on why we should Vote Leave

Springing - except that I fully agree that there are ways to make the EU more democratic...

And the same goes for the UK, by the way.

Interesting video Mango

Wholeheartedly agree with this: Far better to be ahead of the curve, blaze the trail and make that leap of faith.

I will vote LEAVE

A vote to stay is a vote for being afraid of change. Change is coming, whether we want it or not. Let's be in charge of our own destiny when it comes, rather than shackled to a sinking ship i.e. the EU.

These kinds of jingoistic statements remind me of the kind of things Trump and his supporters say. "Make America Great Again!"

OK, let's have an actual plan, yeah?

Problem is none of the solutions that are actually open to brexiters are actually beneficial for the UK, like turkey's voting for Christmas.

How do you define "beneficial"? Are you talking purely about money?