In,out,shake it all about,the EU ,what's best to vote.

[Daisyonthegreen]

Nothing on here,or am I wrong,I'm a newbie so be patient with me.
Anyhow here goes it's the Referendum on the European Union on the 23 June this year.
I'm voting Leave.
How's about you guys?

Germany has welcomed millions of MENA men in and many of them will go on to get EU passports. Once in possession of an EU passport, they can go wherever they please. The issues are very much related.

Governed by the gutter press? That's a bit bloody rude. I'm voting Leave and was a Guardian and Independent reader. Still read the Indy online alongside the Telegraph and many other news sites. I have avoided the guardian since their blackout of issues relating to Cologne. I don't get my information from the gutter press but I am blessed with critical thinking skills and can make up my own mind. The DM, much vilified on here, has actually paid more attention to the attacks on women across the EU than any of the other press so well done to them.

Thanks for the sweeping generalisation though, is days more about you than us.

engineersthumb there are plenty of people in business and industry who support Brexit, as well as many who read broadsheet newspapers Statistics do currently put business as a whole preferring "remain" but there's still a significant percentage preferring "leave".

Does business back Brexit? (Channel 4) The recent CBI poll suggested that 80 per cent of businesses thought "stay" was in their best interests, but the validity of the poll has been challenged and other polls put the "stay" lead as rather smaller.

Business and Brexit - not as simple as it seems (BBC)

EU referendum: Brexit campaign has the edge, says Telegraph poll

I'm not suprised the daily mail widely reports attacks on women, it sells copy rather effectively! Impacts of migrstion on society and criminality have to be faced head on but that doesn't mean whipping up a frenzy. The bottom line is that leaving the EU will have no impact upon sexual crime in Germany, Sweden or elsewhere. Devision merely makes dealing with the emerging crises driving migration more difficult. Attempting to pull up the drawbridge will fail eventually, the only effective option is to work towards stability.

Me too Anna. I'll read whatever's available about the EU, from various newspapers, their websites and other news websites. It's also fascinating to follow the current affairs broadcasts on radio and TV with updates on the debate. If someone doesn't believe a particular claim on a site, they can always check it against other articles elsewhere. Not sure why some people think that if you so much as read something in a tabloid, you'll automatically agree with it

Leaving the EU doesn't have to mean "division". We can be allies and collaborators without being part of the same country.

It's no surprise that business wants to stay in the EU. They want big profits, therefore they want cheap labour. They don't have the interests of our school-leavers at heart, for whom a lifetime of zero-hours contracts is all they'll get work wise, as the better jobs will be snapped up by bright young EU citizens. Over-supply of cheap labour is not going to benefit the majority of UK citizens.

The Labour party should be shouting this from the rooftops.

where are the proofs for the claims that migrants will be "fast-tracked" to German citizenship and that millions of them will get citizenship? It is actually a very unlikely scenario. In Germany for instance, applications for citizenship require 8 years of residence, written and oral German skills and a clean criminal record.

openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/eu-migration-crisis-will-refugees-acquire-full-free-movement-rights/

Btw this is an independent, non-partisan think-tank which has not taken a position on Brexit. Their conclusion on this issue:

Of course there is always an element of risk involved when it comes to migration, but the spectre of thousands of potential sex offenders descending on Britain is far-fetched and smacks of desperation, particularly on the part of those who had pledged to make the positive economic-based case for Brexit.

Safer in the EU eh? Rest in Peace people of the terror attacks in Belgium.
Regards rape,murder and molestation the recent attacks speak for themselves.

Engineers thumb
You deliberately miss the point again.
Leaving the EU would not of course change the occurrence of rape and molestation and murder in Germany,Sweden and Denmark.
BUT we would be setting a scenario where we could more control who comes into the UK and who we can deport thus protecting ourselves.
Basic common sense dictates a Leave vote is essential.

And rest in peace victims of 7/7 in London... 3 out of 4 terrorists were British born, none of them had anything to do with the EU.

But hey, BREXIT WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING

Brexit cannot solve everything,however it can give us back more control.
Vote Leave for the sake of this country and its future,for yourselves and children,it's really quite simple.

The UK already has control of its borders when it comes to the migrants question, and it's already been proven that it is fully capable of nurturing its own home-grown terrorism.

The answer is not to isolate ourselves, close our eyes and hope it all goes away. Because let me tell you, it will not.

Chalalala,
I think it best that we agree to differ.
IMO we are far better to leave,leaving does not equate to isolation,far from it.
Trade would actually flourish ,we would still trade with the EU but we would have profitable trade deals with other countries such as Asia and India.
Plus because we have had home grown terrorism it does not mean that we need to import the potential for more.
Educate yourself on the links I have posted.
You have too much of a negative simplistic view.
As I say we must agree to differ.

The in campaign claim we are safer in the Eu. Clearly that is not the case. We need to secure our borders to prevent terrorists masquerading as refugees getting into this country.
To all you who support remain I doubt you would be making the case if it was a close family member that had been slaughtered.
Yes there are terrorists and fifth columnists in this country. We don't want anymore.

So far we know nothing about the perpetrators of the events in Brussels this morning. To utilise this atrocity for anti-migration and Anti-EU rhetoric is disgusting opportunism. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

We need to secure our borders to prevent terrorists masquerading as refugees getting into this country.

How many times does it need to be said? the UK already controls its refugees intake.

To all you who support remain I doubt you would be making the case if it was a close family member that had been slaughtered.

Oh I bet the relatives of this morning's victims would be just delighted to see you use this for your own political agenda.

Watch how many of them blame the attacks on the EU, or use it to advocate their country leaving the EU. My guess is none, but I could be wrong. Let's watch and see, shall we.

And for your information, I'm from Paris. Pretty much everyone in Paris knows someone who knew someone who was at the Bataclan. It's very real to me.

Dying to call the Brexiters racist aren't you? There really are some deluded fools on here.