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My in laws asked me to not speak my native language

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Kate8889 · 20/10/2026 10:42

We were all sitting together and my mom said something to me in our native language that wasn't complimentary of my in laws (she didn't like that they called her grandma, she has repeatedly asked to not be called that).

The next day my in laws in strong terms asked that I not speak in my native tongue when around them. I am devastated. It is my identity and how I communicate with my mom. It's one of the few things that feel like they are truly mine right now

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Natsku · 21/10/2026 09:58

AuxArmesCitoyens · 21/10/2026 09:45

Especially if the kid is in English daycare / school, exposed to English on TV all day etc. OP gets maybe 2 hours a day to expose the kids to her language and the ILs are using up quarter of that.

Yup. My mum tried to raise us bilingual but had to use English so much that it didn't work, always been sad about that and its been very difficult to learn as an adult.

BleedinglyObvious · 21/10/2026 10:14

HereIAmAlive · 21/10/2026 07:58

I'm getting increasingly confused by all the posts from people saying things like "well in my office people don't all speak the same language, I would never expect someone to speak in a language I can understand when they're talking to someone else". Firstly, is it not obvious that this isn't an office, it's a social interaction between a small group of people and is an inherently different situation? Secondly, how would you feel in your office if you were interacting with two other people in a language that you could all understand, and they then switched into their native language which you couldn't understand in order to obviously criticise you while you were still there? I'm not buying that everyone is so cool and laid-back that they wouldn't be offended by that if it actually happened to them.

Because you can tell from the non-verbal language if they are bad-mouthing someone or something.
What amazes me is how in Teams meetings a group of people in an office in a different continent can switch from their language to English just because I'm on the call.

BleedinglyObvious · 21/10/2026 10:18

AuxArmesCitoyens · 21/10/2026 08:43

I've noticed that Brits abroad are always careful to switch to the local language when out and about, just to be polite and inclusive

They're so good at it too. Perfect grammar and good vocabulary, and the accent is cute.
They never do that pointing and speaking slowly and increasingly loudly that the pesky foreigners do.

MrRydersParlourGame · 21/10/2026 10:18

C8H10N4O2 · 21/10/2026 09:51

Did you miss the point in the OP's posts where the iL's have been asked many times to use the correct name for her mother and they just ignore it? So they are rude and ignorant.

Presumably you and MrRydersParlourGame also missed the OP's posts where they are expected only to use English whenever the iLs are in the house - which is every day for approx half the limited time they have with their children after work. Or the post where her DH is agreeing with this rather than supporting her and have the language conversation with his parents.

As I said in a previous post - even with full time OPOL its extremely difficult tor raise a child bilingual in an English dominant culture. There are also significant cognitive advantages to raising a child bilingual. I'd expect supportive or caring grandparents to be keen to foster their DGC language development.

Either the iLs are deliberately trying to prevent their DGC acquiring full facility in another language or they are just pig ignorant and domineering.

It says a lot for their view of the OP's culture (and possibly race) that they dictate to her how she should only speak in English in her own home with her own children when they enter the house (which will be whenever they feel like it).

I did not miss that. If the OP feels her in laws are in her house too much, that is a separate issue to tackle, and she should tackle it (whether because she wants to spend more time speaking to her children in her native language or otherwise).

I see that you are also now inventing oppression by slyly suggesting, apropos nothing, that maybe her in-laws don't simply find being talked about in another language in front of their faces bloody rude, but may instead simply be racists (having no earthly reason to think they're not all the same ethnicity).

What a way to trivialise a serious social issue in order to try to score a point and avoid acknowledging the poor behaviour of the OP and her mother.

I wonder if the OP has actually started teaching her children her own language at all yet - it sounds like she is yet to teach them for some reason but I stand to be corrected.

BleedinglyObvious · 21/10/2026 10:25

(having no earthly reason to think they're not all the same ethnicity)
Why assume they are of the same ethnicity?
Race and ethnicity in the United States - Wikipedia

AuxArmesCitoyens · 21/10/2026 10:25

I think the OP said the language was Russian, which comes with its own set of assumptions and complexities.

Dahliasrule · 21/10/2026 10:26

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OhTheCowsInTheMeadowGoMoo · 21/10/2026 10:32

Missey85 · 21/10/2026 08:36

I'm with your in-laws you were purposely speaking it to slag off his parents it's rude! ☹️

Exactly, that's what the problem is.
Not speaking your own language around others who don't speak it - where I used to work there were lots of different languages spoken and I was some days the one in the minority being the only English speaker around!
Never a problem, I used to like hearing all the different languages. If someone switched and I knew they were slagging me off though as I wouldn't understand it, that would be different.
Rude.

OhTheCowsInTheMeadowGoMoo · 21/10/2026 10:38

2chocolateoranges · 20/10/2026 23:01

Of course it’s rude, how would you feel in a workplace with other people speaking a different language and you didn’t know what they were saying, who they were talking about and you weren’t involved in the discussion.

its rude, many people on this thread are saying it’s rude.

See, that's not rude though - they're just speaking their language. Why shouldn't they?
Why should people struggle along in a foreign language to each other just to make me feel more comfortable?
If they're talking to me they'd switch to English.
That's OK.
(Just not OK if they were clearly discussing me in their language - which would be obvious in body language and looks I would have thought)

HereIAmAlive · 21/10/2026 10:43

AuxArmesCitoyens · 21/10/2026 10:25

I think the OP said the language was Russian, which comes with its own set of assumptions and complexities.

The OP hasn't said what the language is, someone else suggested it might be Russian. The OP has been fairly obtuse about a number of things - we don't know what the language is, we don't know if she has already started speaking it with her children (if she hasn't, then why not? Did it only become important when her ILs asked her not to use it to slag them off?!), we don't know whether her in laws have actually at any point asked her not to teach it to her children... The full story might not suit her 'poor me' narrative so she has declined to share it.

user293948849167 · 21/10/2026 10:51

I am bilingual and I think this was rude of your mum. She should have had a word with you afterwards.
The only time I have talked my language in front of my ILs is when my DC were very little and spoke to me in that language first.
Being bilingual is great and I respect anyone’s right to speak a language I don’t understand, but it is rude to have a prolonged conversation or obvious “in jokes” that everyone can’t understand.

Also I have managed to bring up two bilingual children without ever being rude to my ILs
Bilingual children differentiate between two languages very early on, before they can actually talk themselves, they won’t get confused

Coconutter24 · 21/10/2026 10:53

C8H10N4O2 · 21/10/2026 09:15

Have you tried to bring up a child bilingual in an English dominant culture? Even if they have full time OPOL its really difficult, in this case the children are also in English speaking childcare all day.

The OP and DH work full time so like most parents of young children they have a couple of hours in the evening. The iLs rock up for half of that time each night and demand the OP speaks English.

I would not tolerate someone telling me how to speak in my own house and bring up my own children and normally MNers wouldn't either - well they wouldn't if the OP wasn't a "furrin" speaker.

Well then a compromise should be made. OP and her mum don’t speak about anyone else in their own language, if they have something to say it should be said in a language everyone can understand. People aren’t disagreeing with Op because she is foreign it is because they are talking about people in a language they can’t understand

BleedinglyObvious · 21/10/2026 10:55

AuxArmesCitoyens · 21/10/2026 10:25

I think the OP said the language was Russian, which comes with its own set of assumptions and complexities.

She didn't.

If the mother's language is completely different to the country's language, then raising bilingual children is harder.
It's not like the difference between English and German/French/Italian etc, and it's not just the alphabet difference.

Coconutter24 · 21/10/2026 10:56

Natsku · 21/10/2026 09:24

To bring up a child bilingual you really ought to speak to them in your native language 100% of the time so yes, switching to English for 20/30 minutes a day can hurt, especially if the children are reluctant with the language as it teaches them that mum can talk English to them so might always do so if they refuse enough.

But equally if a child is old enough to refuse to speak a different language other than English shouldn’t that be for them to decide? I completely understand why OP wants her children to learn her native language but given where they live it’s more important they understand English

AuxArmesCitoyens · 21/10/2026 10:57

HereIAmAlive · 21/10/2026 10:43

The OP hasn't said what the language is, someone else suggested it might be Russian. The OP has been fairly obtuse about a number of things - we don't know what the language is, we don't know if she has already started speaking it with her children (if she hasn't, then why not? Did it only become important when her ILs asked her not to use it to slag them off?!), we don't know whether her in laws have actually at any point asked her not to teach it to her children... The full story might not suit her 'poor me' narrative so she has declined to share it.

au temps pour moi

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 21/10/2026 11:03

Shoobadadoo · 20/10/2026 10:47

Well you’re doing it to bitch about people. So it’s not about your identity is it? It’s about saying mean things about people in front of them knowing they can’t translate.

also from body language they probably know you’re bitching

I agree

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 21/10/2026 11:04

Why do your in laws come to your home everyday?

Ohthatsabitshit · 21/10/2026 11:08

The correct response would be to listen to your mum politely while she explains her distress and then relay that to your ILs.

Eg Mums just explaining how very upset she is that you keep calling her Grandma. Could you stop doing that it’s making things very difficult for me?

Explain that your children will be bilingual and speaking your home language with you but English at school and with them.

Rollergirl79 · 21/10/2026 11:18

An ex school friend of mine used to speak to her Mum in her Mum's native language in front of others and in my opinion it's just so rude. Totally different if her mother couldn't speak English, but she could. Ex friend would happily admit that she would do this so that they could say negative things about others right in front of them. Nasty!

Mixerfixer · 21/10/2026 11:18

OldrNWisr · 21/10/2026 08:16

Asking you not to converse with your mother in another language in front of them is perfectly reasonable, it’s rude. They get absolutely no say in whether you choose to teach your language to your children though. They are entitled to their bilingual heritage.

The in law's are also speaking "another language ". English isn't superior to other languages

Mixerfixer · 21/10/2026 11:20

Coconutter24 · 21/10/2026 10:56

But equally if a child is old enough to refuse to speak a different language other than English shouldn’t that be for them to decide? I completely understand why OP wants her children to learn her native language but given where they live it’s more important they understand English

I'm sure they do. They're at English speaking day care most of the day and then spend 30 min in the evenings plus a few hours on Sundays with their English speaking grand parents.

JulietteRoche · 21/10/2026 11:44

Dahliasrule · 21/10/2026 09:31

Rather uncalled for. I do not find languages easy to learn but have A level French and did a year’s Italian at university. Trying to pick up a new language at nearly 70 I found very hard but did go to classes and could cope when people spoke very slowly. However, the family, when speaking together, spoke incredibly fast.
How many languages do you have?

Three. I don't think it's 'uncalled for' to expect someone to try to learn the language that a family member speaks. I stand by the fact that it is rude and entitled to expect people to speak English in their own home in a country which is not English speaking. It's giving Brits in Spain demanding full English breakfasts and Sunday roasts. Just a bit insular and ignorant and if I'd been your DIL, I wouldn't have bothered to speak English either.

CuteOrangeElephant · 21/10/2026 11:49

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Surely it was your son's job to teach his children his own native language!

I have bilingual children, it is a lot of work.

JulietteRoche · 21/10/2026 11:55

CuteOrangeElephant · 21/10/2026 11:49

Surely it was your son's job to teach his children his own native language!

I have bilingual children, it is a lot of work.

Yes, I don't know why @Dahliasrule is blaming her DIL for this situation!

Natsku · 21/10/2026 15:56

Coconutter24 · 21/10/2026 10:56

But equally if a child is old enough to refuse to speak a different language other than English shouldn’t that be for them to decide? I completely understand why OP wants her children to learn her native language but given where they live it’s more important they understand English

Just like we don't leave the choice of brushing teeth or going to school up to children, bilingual families shouldn't leave the choice of learning languages up to the children - children generally like seek the easier route and don't think long term so, like me as a child when I could have moved up to the harder class in Saturday School and really tried to learn but chose not to, if they get the choice to take the easy way out they will, and regret it later in life. Her children will have no problem learning English when its the majority language, the effort needs to go into keeping the minority language going.