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Ethical dilemmas

Childminder lives with rapist

163 replies

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 14:13

I know a childminder who works from her house, and has her rapist son living with her. He isnt charged, but has admitted to multiple rapes and there is evidence of him admitting this. What do you even do with this information, is this a safety concern?

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OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 16:59

ChompandaGrazia · 26/05/2025 16:56

I think the gross misunderstanding is coming from this not making any sense.

You say you saw this on his phone and no one else’s. You saw it in a private chat.
Why did he show this to you?

i apologise if i have caused confusion. i am trying to reply to everything and give explanations and answers for everything being asked and explain it as best as i can. he didnt show me. i saw. as ive said he did not show me these pictures i saw them

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ChompandaGrazia · 26/05/2025 17:00

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 16:59

i apologise if i have caused confusion. i am trying to reply to everything and give explanations and answers for everything being asked and explain it as best as i can. he didnt show me. i saw. as ive said he did not show me these pictures i saw them

How did you see them? You said you weren’t looking through his phone and he didn’t show them to you. So how did you see them?

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:00

Ankther · 26/05/2025 16:57

So you were clearly sitting/standing next to this man if you were close enough to see his phone. Was this before or after you found out about the multiple credible rape allegations?

yes, and before. that came pretty much very soon after

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OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:02

Clockpic · 26/05/2025 16:59

I don't think a rape conviction against an adult would mean his CM mother couldn't have him living there anyway?

Edited

this is what i thought as well, which is exactly why i was asking for advice

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soupyspoon · 26/05/2025 17:02

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:00

yes, and before. that came pretty much very soon after

Yes and before. Why cant you answer questions properly

What does yes and before mean

So you know this person well enough to be close enough to spy their phone messages and see indecent images? He's sent some to someone (are you also concerned about this other person being interested in the images because that person will also now be guilty of possessing indecent images)

How are you in posession of the information about the confession of the rape

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:04

soupyspoon · 26/05/2025 16:58

So how did you accidentally see the images on his phone. And what did he say when you mentioned it

You say messages, are you referring then to the confession, who were the messages to and what did they say? How did you see the messages if they were to someone else?

ive said how i saw the messages. he begged me not to go to the police because that was the first thing i said, he said he would delete them, that he didnt take them, a bunch of stuff. messages are about the confession, it was admitting to it and saying how he thought she would eventually ‘get in the mood’ as well as a bunch of other stuff

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ScrewedByFunding · 26/05/2025 17:05

Very weird thread. Lacks actual information of any substance and seems deliberately unclear and vague.

ChompandaGrazia · 26/05/2025 17:06

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:04

ive said how i saw the messages. he begged me not to go to the police because that was the first thing i said, he said he would delete them, that he didnt take them, a bunch of stuff. messages are about the confession, it was admitting to it and saying how he thought she would eventually ‘get in the mood’ as well as a bunch of other stuff

You haven’t said how you saw them, not in any way that I understand anyway.

Report him. To hell with what everyone else is telling you. Contact the police and tell them that you have seen this images and also tell them the rape confession.

Digdongdoo · 26/05/2025 17:06

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:04

ive said how i saw the messages. he begged me not to go to the police because that was the first thing i said, he said he would delete them, that he didnt take them, a bunch of stuff. messages are about the confession, it was admitting to it and saying how he thought she would eventually ‘get in the mood’ as well as a bunch of other stuff

OP just report the rape as well. If the confessions are messages they will find them when they look for the CSAM.
You should be speaking to the police now really.

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:07

soupyspoon · 26/05/2025 17:02

Yes and before. Why cant you answer questions properly

What does yes and before mean

So you know this person well enough to be close enough to spy their phone messages and see indecent images? He's sent some to someone (are you also concerned about this other person being interested in the images because that person will also now be guilty of possessing indecent images)

How are you in posession of the information about the confession of the rape

that was a proper response. yes i was standing close to him, it was before i knew about the rape. i havent spied on his phone. please read through the whole thread this has been answered and shut down already. the pictures are being dealt with so i am no longer concerned about anyones opinion on it, i have followed the advice given to me. and as ive said before, verbal confession and messages, as well as knowing the girl. all of this has been answered

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Babyboomtastic · 26/05/2025 17:07

Is this a stepson? And the childminder is your partner's ex?

I'm otherwise struggling to see how you're sat next to this lad (who is in his 20s, but you can't say whether he was a teenager at the time, despite this happening on the last 2-3 weeks 🤔), whilst he's seemingly sending indecent images of kids, whilst you're sat next to him.

This is beyond odd

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:08

ChompandaGrazia · 26/05/2025 17:06

You haven’t said how you saw them, not in any way that I understand anyway.

Report him. To hell with what everyone else is telling you. Contact the police and tell them that you have seen this images and also tell them the rape confession.

i have! please read the thread! ive stated this many times now

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YourQuirkyLimeSnail · 26/05/2025 17:09

14:23 "I know he had naked pictures of teenage girls on his 'phone"

15:02 "I have seen the pictures with my own eyes on his 'phone which i'm 90% certain he would've deleted by now"..."I did confront him over the pictures and and was told he was going to delete them"

15:17 when asked about the pictures and why you thought they were underage i.e children, "I assumed from their undeveloped bodies but this was confirmed by him when I confronted him about it"

15:23 "He didn't show me the pictures, I saw them accidentally on his 'phone"

15:39 "He didn't show me the pictures, I came across them"

16:02 "I wasn't going through his 'phone, he was on a chat with a person and it was in the chat as something he had sent. I immeadiately confronted him about it"

Okay, so there's someone you are associated with but not a friend or an ex; who you know to be a multiple rapist as he has admitted to being a rapist on multiple occasions, and you were physically close enough to him to see his chats on his 'phone with someone else.

And you saw him receiving pictures of CSAM and you confronted him about it and he CONFIRMED it was CSAM and then you asked some people whether you should report it to the Police and they said no.

That's the story?

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:10

not a stepson. childminder is no relation to me i dont even have a partner i havent said anywhere that she is a connection of mine. he wasnt sending the pictures whilst i was there, they were already in the chat, im unable to say if he was a teenager when he sent the photos i didnt see when they were sent

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OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:12

YourQuirkyLimeSnail · 26/05/2025 17:09

14:23 "I know he had naked pictures of teenage girls on his 'phone"

15:02 "I have seen the pictures with my own eyes on his 'phone which i'm 90% certain he would've deleted by now"..."I did confront him over the pictures and and was told he was going to delete them"

15:17 when asked about the pictures and why you thought they were underage i.e children, "I assumed from their undeveloped bodies but this was confirmed by him when I confronted him about it"

15:23 "He didn't show me the pictures, I saw them accidentally on his 'phone"

15:39 "He didn't show me the pictures, I came across them"

16:02 "I wasn't going through his 'phone, he was on a chat with a person and it was in the chat as something he had sent. I immeadiately confronted him about it"

Okay, so there's someone you are associated with but not a friend or an ex; who you know to be a multiple rapist as he has admitted to being a rapist on multiple occasions, and you were physically close enough to him to see his chats on his 'phone with someone else.

And you saw him receiving pictures of CSAM and you confronted him about it and he CONFIRMED it was CSAM and then you asked some people whether you should report it to the Police and they said no.

That's the story?

i didnt say he was never a friend. i said hes not in my friendship group, i said i WAS associated with him i am obviously not now. yes that is the story, apart from he wasn’t receiving them as far as im aware, i only saw the ones he had sent. i wasnt told not to report it because it wasnt wrong, i was told there would be nothing the police could do. yes that is the story

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ChompandaGrazia · 26/05/2025 17:16

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:08

i have! please read the thread! ive stated this many times now

No you haven’t. Not in any intelligible way. You don’t make any sense.

Stepfordian · 26/05/2025 17:17

soupyspoon · 26/05/2025 17:02

Yes and before. Why cant you answer questions properly

What does yes and before mean

So you know this person well enough to be close enough to spy their phone messages and see indecent images? He's sent some to someone (are you also concerned about this other person being interested in the images because that person will also now be guilty of possessing indecent images)

How are you in posession of the information about the confession of the rape

It’s quite frustrating isn’t it? OP you clearly think you’ve explained things here but you have to remember we don’t know what you know, so you need to give context and answer each question individually and clearly, or it just comes across as nonsense.

soupyspoon · 26/05/2025 17:18

Did he send them on whatsapp?

So you're sitting next to someone who you were associated with at the time, and he is nonchalantly sending messages of CSA to another associate that you dont know (or dont associate with). Just like that?

I mean,,, people do, but its fairly unusual. Were you in his house, your house, a pub, the park, a shop, where were you when this happened?

soupyspoon · 26/05/2025 17:20

It will be like wading through treacle for the officer taking these details to make sense of this.

Unforgettablefire · 26/05/2025 17:20

Maddy70 · 26/05/2025 15:11

He isn't a rapist if he hasn't been convicted. He may not be! These are rumours and If true very damaging

A rapist is someone who rapes someone regardless of convictions. I’ve never heard such bullshit wtf!

OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:21

ChompandaGrazia · 26/05/2025 17:16

No you haven’t. Not in any intelligible way. You don’t make any sense.

i was saying i have reported it, but i have also explained. i will explain again. i was standing close to him. he was on a chat with someone. not sending pictures just on the chat. i saw the photos in the chat. i confronted him.

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OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:21

Stepfordian · 26/05/2025 17:17

It’s quite frustrating isn’t it? OP you clearly think you’ve explained things here but you have to remember we don’t know what you know, so you need to give context and answer each question individually and clearly, or it just comes across as nonsense.

i can appreciate this. i am trying my best i apologise

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OneBluePoster · 26/05/2025 17:22

soupyspoon · 26/05/2025 17:18

Did he send them on whatsapp?

So you're sitting next to someone who you were associated with at the time, and he is nonchalantly sending messages of CSA to another associate that you dont know (or dont associate with). Just like that?

I mean,,, people do, but its fairly unusual. Were you in his house, your house, a pub, the park, a shop, where were you when this happened?

not on whatsapp. as stated before he was not sending them whilst i was there. they had previously been sent. at his house

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plantsnpants · 26/05/2025 17:22

You have had some wrong advice here

firstly- unless the victim is under 13 or lacks capacity a victimless prosecution for a sexual offence would not happen- it goes against the victims wishes which are respected. That means he won’t be charged- he can however be arrested and the victim revisited to see if she wishes to
support an investigation.

sex offenders don’t have a strict type it is the access to vulnerability over preference, often child offenders have also committed offences against adults.

it is absolutely the right thing to do to report it - do a 101 or crime stoppers report if you wish to remain anonymous- give as much detail as possible.

ChompandaGrazia · 26/05/2025 17:23

Tell me if this is correct.

There is a man in his 20s.
This man lives with his mother who is a childminder.
You know him but he’s not a friend.
You were looking over his shoulder and saw him sending indecent images of girls that you believe to be underage.
This man then confessed to you that he had had non consensual sex with someone.

You told all this to other people who said not to go to the police.

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